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I'd more or less echo Gareth's view. We looked at Funnelback a year or more ago, and liked the look of it, but came away unconvinced by the economics. The advantages were not so great as to justify the leap into the dark, and the investment required. Let no-one buying a GSA, however, think its cost-free to run. It uses up a noticeable proportion of a person's time here, to keep an eye on stuff, install updates, help people with front ends, take it for walkies, field questions etc. -- Stormageddon Rahtz Head of Information and Support Group, Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431 Sólo le pido a Dios que el futuro no me sea indiferente