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You know, watching this whole conversation, i'm reminded of an image from GraphJam a while back: http://graphjam.memebase.com/2010/05/14/funny-graphs-american-european-culture/ For those who don't wish to click through the link, it's a Venn diagram titled "American and European Culture". There's a red circle and a blue circle that almost entirely overlap, with the overlap labeled "Similarities", and lines leading from the bare slivers of non-overlap to a label reading "Sources of constant internet trolling". Lots of truth there, given my experience in the US and continental Europe, though i'll readily admit my personal experience doesn't extend to the United Kingdom. -- David Bowie ######################################################################## The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to variationist sociolinguistics. To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1