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Wow, like others this really makes my blood boil! I am Secretary of the NWOHG and we will be sending a response to the NMC, once we have lobbied our members. I wonder if other group heads would do the same? I suggest this may have more impact, together with responses from the OH Educators. I will be asking our members for comments but I wonder if members of Jiscmail would mind posting theirs on the site, for inclusion in all our responses. Kind regards Allison Sent from my iPhone On 1 Nov 2011, at 08:01, Sarah Witwicka <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > How can a CEO publically declare that the organisation they work for (probably for a pretty good salary) "is a shambles"???? > > a) What's he going to do about it... > > OR > > b) When uis he going to step aside and let someone else sort it out??? > > Grrrrrrr.... > > > > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:18:04 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] SCPHN register - OH Nursing > To: [log in to unmask] > > Dear subscribers > > I would recommend that jisc subscribers have a look at this link: > > http://www.nursingtimes.net/5036816.article?referrer=e1 > > In fairness this is a link to a general nursing journal but it makes surprising reading. I am aware that Dickon Weir-Hughes CEO of the NMC is of the opinion that the SCPHN register is a shambles, he said as much when Diana Kloss, Helen Kirk and I met with him about a year ago. However, I am shocked that he does not consider OHNs to be public health practitioners. > > Although compliance by HEIs with the education standards set by the NMC is very difficult with respect to OHN education, it does not mean that OHNs do not practice public health. OHNs deal with populations and undertake a important public health function. Dickon Weir-Hughes states that OHNs see themselves more as nurses than SCPHNs. I don’t know why I am shocked by the position of the NMC nothing from the NMC should now surprise me. > > I would be interested in the view of the OHN subscribers to this list re this position. > > Anne. > > Anne Harriss > Course Director > LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY > > > > > > > On 28/10/2011 13:38, "Carr Barnes" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Great discussion and I hope Nick isn't completely scared off by the range. Hopefully instead it is illustrating the wide variety of areas he could start considering. Occupational physiotherapy for instance is another developing field. > > As for title I have to disagree with Ann about calling myself an OHA for status. I do it because 'nurse' IMHO is and always will be associated with sickness, sick role, paternalism and hands on treatment by the lay community. I don't 'nurse', I advise on health management to both employer and employee and am proud to do so. > > Regards > > Carr > On Oct 28, 2011 12:33 p.m., "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Hello Barry > > > > The focus on safety within SCPHN courses is variable, the LSBU course meets > > public health competencies but has three of six units covering safety and > > management of environmental impact. I would hope our graduates would work > > collaboratively within the broad H&S team. > > > > The current South Bank SCPHN OH courses do not have units with shared > > classroom learning with School nurses (SNs) and Health Visitors (HVs). > > Courses in some other HEIs have more core material delivered across the > > board to OH/HV/SNs and so the focus of those courses is very much generic > > public health. Having said that, there is no reason for those with less H&S > > material in their OH courses not to work collaboratively with our H&S > > colleagues. > > > > Anne > > Anne Harriss > > Course Director > > LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY > > > > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH