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I believe you achieve completeness more quickly (fewer crystals) if you 
just take random orientations.  At least, that's what I learnt from Dave 
Stuart.
phx



On 18/11/2011 04:20, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Yanwu,
>
> I surmise from your question that you are inquiring how to go about 
> collecting from many crystals optimally. Merging data ex post facto is 
> a totally different kettle of fish.
>
> In my opinion, the most robust way to go about this is to use a kappa 
> goniometer as Jim suggested (I am most familiar with the MK3). Since 
> you intend to collect from many crystals, align the first and all 
> subsequent crystals to the same easily attainable (or seemingly so) 
> orientation, and then collect the sweep suggested by your data 
> collection strategy program of choice.
>
> To achieve this at NE-CAT, we have a GUI-based system that used STAC 
> for orientation determination and BEST for strategy generation. As Jim 
> suggested, more options than STAC exist.
>
> If anyone is unable to get to a kappa goniometer, they can employ 
> Mosflm or XDS (Xplan) to generate strategies for data collection from 
> a crystal taking into account previously collected data. This is not 
> nearly as robust a solution, but is a workable substitute (and also 
> automated at NE-CAT).
>
> I know there are other ways to achieve similar results, but I have 
> suggested the methods I am most familiar with...
>
>
> Yours,
> Frank Murphy
>
>
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>> *From: *yanwu huo <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> *Date: *November 17, 2011 4:00:06 PM CST
>> *To: *[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject: **[ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection*
>> *Reply-To: *yanwu huo <[log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I worked on a crystal sensitive to radiation damage, So I need to 
>> merge many crystal to obtain complete dataset, Does anyone know such 
>> program that can tell crystal orientation after first frame exposure.
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
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>> -- 
>> Thank you very much and all the best,
>>
>> Yanwu Huo
>> Postdoctoral Associate
>> Department of Molecular Biology and Genetics
>> Cornell University
>> Ithaca, NY, 14853
>> Email:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
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