Hi Pitch; It occurs to me that for all of the years that teachers have been photocopying parts of books to share with a class that they have in fact been abusing someone's copyright. It is a difficult issue to decide who actually owns a book, even a hard copy. You may own the material that it is made from but someone else still owns the words that are written inside. So I think that the issue of compliance with copyright by the academic world is a bigger issue than just e-book use. Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:17:52 -0800 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Academic ebooks To: [log in to unmask] Aloha, On 11/5/2011 10:41 AM, janet ifimust wrote: Is that the case, if the ebook has been stored elsewhere? Amazon can delete something from my kindle - but if I have managed to store it elsewhere, surely they would not be able to access it there? On a pen drive, for example? There are a range of possibilities here, depending on both technical matters and an ereader user's willingness to go beyond the letter of registration and warranty and digital rights agreements. Ereader--wireless--devices check in with their hosting servers whenever they are able. Periodic check ins may even be required for the ereader device to function easily in the hosting network (that is, too long without a check in may lead to having to reset the device and/or re-register back into the network). So if the user wants to get ebooks from the edistributor, the ereader has to stay more or less updated in the hosting network. And the ereader device is reminded again and again to search for files that are not supposed to be accessible by the device. And get rid of them. Edistributors cannot get at files user's store on separate chips or drives. But users probably need to access those files with ereaders intentionally set to an off-line status, if the files are out of compliance with the edistributor's conditions in any manner. And swap memory chips holding out of compliance files for chips holding in compliance ones. Or take some other steps to keep out of compliance files away from technical scrutiny. Or users have to use other devices, like computers. Reading and using the ebooks gets cumbersome. Users need to swap chips in their ereader devices. Or switch among different devices to access different (in compliance or out) files. Ereader users who pay less attention to the strict requirements of warranties, user registrations, and digital rights agreements can, of course, find ways to use their devices in ways the edistributors and authors and digital rights holders do not like. Right now, I think that it's an open question how the academic world looks at any out of compliance use or access of e-materials. But I believe that, in cases involving physical printed materials, the academic world upholds in compliance use and access. Musing Users Have One Set of Needs & Expectations, Workplaces, Authors, Publishers, & Distributors Have Others! Rose, Pitch