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Looking down on people for publishing a more popular version of their work seems a bit narrow minded to me. 1/ it is a way to offer education to people that might not otherwise get access to it and 2/ it is tacitly limiting the scholar to only an academic income. As a non-scholar I feel as though it is a pity that I may be missing the opportunity to read some very interesting work simply because I don't have ready access to academic journals and am unlikely to know where to look in any case. Learning should be accessible to as many people as possible. Again I think that there can be a fairer system.
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:39:43 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue Metaverse Creativity
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In a perfect world issues of job/retirement security are supposed to
be resolved by academic tenure which, at least in the US,
traditionally amounts to a quite livable retirement pension as well.
Tenure seems to be an endangered institution, however, and it very
much remains to be seen how these things will shake out in the
coming years.
As for publishing popular works alongside academic ones, this can be
actually be harmful to one's career in some academic fields, insofar
as it's sometimes looked down upon.
- N
On 11/8/2011 4:16 AM, David Mattichak wrote:
I can see the usefulness of having a strategy of writing one
book for the university and another, more popular volume to sell
to a wider audience if such a thing is possible. My long term
strategy as an author isn't to hit the NY Times bestsellers (it
would be great but unlikely) but rather to accumulate enough
books on the market so that the combined royalties creates a
useful income for when I am too old to write (if such a time
ever comes). An academic could spend their life writing for a
college and end up with no residual income from it. There has to
be a fairer system. Writing is hard work and academic writers
should be paid for the wealth that it generates for the
universities- in my humble (and probably ill-informed) opinion.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me so genuinely
David
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:08:02 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue Metaverse
Creativity
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David,
Seeing as the university one works for rarely directly
publishes one's work, I believe that question returns to the
contractual agreement between the author and the publisher.
At least this is how it works in the humanities in the US,
to the best of my knowledge. I believe copyright issues get
somewhat stickier in the academic hard sciences, but I think
even those complications are more in the realm of patents on
scientific/technological products than on published papers.
Dave e,
Still being in a doctoral program, and having been lucky
enough to be funded throughout, I haven't yet had to face
the job market or the realities you describe. I also happen
to be in a small field that's nonetheless relatively in
demand right now, so I'm just hoping that's still true in
two years or so when I finish the diss.
- N
On 11/8/2011 3:25 AM, David Mattichak wrote:
Thanks Noah;
So if you are being paid to write for a college or
university who owns the copyright on the material that
you write for them- you or the college?
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011
02:57:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue
Metaverse Creativity
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Ideally, the academic has a job at a college or
university, and part of what the university is
paying them to do is produce and publish original
scholarship. Publishing is often tied to promotion
so, at least in theory, the more one publishes the
more pay/job security one gets. There are less
explicitly financial advantages to publishing as
well, in terms of being known in your field, getting
your ideas into circulation, etc.
Not that things always work out this way in reality.
- Noah
On 11/8/2011 2:48 AM, David Mattichak wrote:
Then it is a bad deal. Even
academics have to eat- why don't they get paid?
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011
17:56:24 +1100
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Academic
journals don’t pay for articles at all,
as far as I know.
From:
Society for The Academic Study of
Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of David Mattichak
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November
2011 3:38 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re:
[ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue
Metaverse Creativity
This
is essentially a freelance writing
agreement. If they don't pay up front
for the articles then they are ripping
people off. But if they pay for the
material then they are stipulating
that they are buying the copyright, a
very common practice in publishing if
not in academic circles. Business
models that try and squeeze a few
bucks like this rarely endure.
>
Date:
Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:47:12 +1100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re:
[ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue
Metaverse Creativity
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> I see....
>
> Is this different to other
journals? I've only had one peer
reviewer journal
> article and frankly, I wouldn't
have a clue about copyright of it (I
mean I
> probably did initially read
something regarding it but have now
forgotten
> it).
>
> ~Caroline.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Society for The Academic
Study of Magic
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Morgan Leigh
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011
2:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re:
[ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue
Metaverse Creativity
>
> Thanks for thinking of us
Caroline. Sadly;
>
> "Who owns the copyright of
journal articles?
> Copyrights of articles remain
with Intellect in our journals. We
then
> have agreements with other
companies (such as EBSCO Host) to
license
> them to carry our material in
their products and pay us a fee.
Without
> us holding the copyright to all
the material in our journals, our
> business model does not work."
>
> Regards,
>
> Morgan Leigh
> PhD Candidate
> School of Sociology and Social
Work
> University of Tasmania
>
>
> On 7/11/2011 9:02 PM, Caroline
Tully wrote:
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University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Noah Gardiner
Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Near Eastern Studies
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Noah Gardiner
Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Near Eastern Studies
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor