yes re no residual income, but if you spend a lifetime writing for one or more universities you'd hope that there'd be a decent pension provision. "Hope" being the operative word right now. As an independent with limited unpaid time to write about what interests me i tend to go for the writing small books with broader appeal, rather than chunring out articles in the smaller hope that it'll get me a proper job,  for the same reasons as your accumulative strategy mentioned below

Dave E



On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:16 AM, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I can see the usefulness of having a strategy of writing one book for the university and another, more popular volume to sell to a wider audience if such a thing is possible. My long term strategy as an author isn't to hit the NY Times bestsellers (it would be great but unlikely) but rather to accumulate enough books on the market so that the combined royalties creates a useful income for when I am too old to write (if such a time ever comes). An academic could spend their life writing for a college and end up with no residual income from it. There has to be a fairer system. Writing is hard work and academic writers should be paid for the wealth that it generates for the universities- in my humble (and probably ill-informed) opinion.

Thanks for taking the time to answer me so genuinely

David

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:08:02 -0500

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David,

Seeing as the university one works for rarely directly publishes one's work, I believe that question returns to the contractual agreement between the author and the publisher. At least this is how it works in the humanities in the US, to the best of my knowledge. I believe copyright issues get somewhat stickier in the academic hard sciences, but I think even those complications are more in the realm of patents on scientific/technological products than on published papers.

Dave e,

Still being in a doctoral program, and having been lucky enough to be funded throughout, I haven't yet had to face the job market or the realities you describe. I also happen to be in a small field that's nonetheless relatively in demand right now, so I'm just hoping that's still true in two years or so when I finish the diss.

- N
 
On 11/8/2011 3:25 AM, David Mattichak wrote:
Thanks Noah;

So if you are being paid to write for a college or university who owns the copyright on the material that you write for them- you or the college?

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:57:13 -0500
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Ideally, the academic has a job at a college or university, and part of what the university is paying them to do is produce and publish original scholarship. Publishing is often tied to promotion so, at least in theory, the more one publishes the more pay/job security one gets. There are less explicitly financial advantages to publishing as well, in terms of being known in your field, getting your ideas into circulation, etc.

Not that things always work out this way in reality.

- Noah


On 11/8/2011 2:48 AM, David Mattichak wrote:
Then it is a bad deal. Even academics have to eat- why don't they get paid?

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:56:24 +1100
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Academic journals don’t pay for articles at all, as far as I know.

 

 

From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Mattichak
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 3:38 PM
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This is essentially a freelance writing agreement. If they don't pay up front for the articles then they are ripping people off. But if they pay for the material then they are stipulating that they are buying the copyright, a very common practice in publishing if not in academic circles. Business models that try and squeeze a few bucks like this rarely endure.

> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:47:12 +1100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue Metaverse Creativity
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> I see....
>
> Is this different to other journals? I've only had one peer reviewer journal
> article and frankly, I wouldn't have a clue about copyright of it (I mean I
> probably did initially read something regarding it but have now forgotten
> it).
>
> ~Caroline.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Morgan Leigh
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 2:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New issue Metaverse Creativity
>
> Thanks for thinking of us Caroline. Sadly;
>
> "Who owns the copyright of journal articles?
> Copyrights of articles remain with Intellect in our journals. We then
> have agreements with other companies (such as EBSCO Host) to license
> them to carry our material in their products and pay us a fee. Without
> us holding the copyright to all the material in our journals, our
> business model does not work."
>
> Regards,
>
> Morgan Leigh
> PhD Candidate
> School of Sociology and Social Work
> University of Tasmania
>
>
> On 7/11/2011 9:02 PM, Caroline Tully wrote:
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Noah Gardiner
Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Near Eastern Studies
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor


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Noah Gardiner
Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Near Eastern Studies
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor