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I looked to see if you were from New Orleans. This has been going on ever since Katrina. People try to rebuild in a deserted neighborhood and the pipes (and everything else) is gone by morning of the next day. Times are tough all over.MG
Marjorie Greene
http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/
--- On Thu, 10/27/11, Elaine Beretz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Theft of metal from UK churches
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Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 9:34 PM
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I have been enjoying all the twists and turns of this thread over the past few days.
But let me tell you about my afternoon. I was working at home, enjoying the peace of my suburban Philadelphia neighborhood, when suddenly there were about five police cars pulling up in front of my house. Then about ten officers were chasing a man into my back yard, wrestling him to the ground, and taking him away.
Turns out that he had broken into the house next door (a lovely old Victorian) and was stripping the copper pipes from the cellar! In broad daylight.
So theft of metal is not just for churches anymore ...
Elaine
Elaine M. Beretz, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Visual Culture
Bryn Mawr College
101 Merion Avenue
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010-2899
--- On Thu, 10/27/11, Thomas Izbicki <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Theft of metal from UK churches
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Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 2:15 PM
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#yiv867656122 p {margin:0;}There were tribunals. Nicholas Eimeric in his Directorium treated the teams of inquisitors in terms of judges delegates, appointed to act on case for the pope locally. There is a good deal of material on judges delegate, but the original practice was to choose local ecclesiastics. The innovation was the use of friars in work once done by bishops. In a way, this is another intrusion of the papacy into local situations, but inquisitors still had to deal with local authorities, ecclesiastical and lay. Antoninus of Florence, in his Summa, even discussed the possibility that inquisitors & bishops my be partners in running the jail for suspects.
Tom Izbicki
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'The Inquisition' is a scholarly myth, largely exploded by Richard Kieckhefer. Its a general consensus among scholars that I know who work on heresy agree is correct. Regional branches of government such as the Spanish Inquisition existed, but there was no institutionalized arm of the medieval Church known as 'the Inqusition'. Instead there were individual men designated to act as inquisitors. But not institutional structure, identity, or memory beyond what was provided by the Dominican Order, from which a majority of inquisitors were drawn.
Andrew E. Larsen
Marquette University
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Oct 27, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Christopher Crockett wrote:
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> From: HenkADSL <[log in to unmask]>
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>> I doubt if eccles[ias]tical courts had gallows, as they were not allowed to
> pronounce death sentences.
>
> ?
>
> the several victims of the Inquisition will be relieved to hear that, Hank.
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