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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture But the first place to start, for a clear basic introduction, is: John Harper, The Forms and Orders of Western Liturgy from the Tenth to the Eighteenth Century: A Historical Introduction and Guide for Students and Musicians (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1991) Vogel can be rather difficult to understand (it's about the sources...); a companion to Vogel (from the point of view of the books!) is: Eric Palazzo (trans. Madeleine M. Beaumont), The History of Liturgical Books from the Origins to the Thirteenth Century (Liturgical Press, 1997) I think it would be helpful for everyone to discuss the questions here. To kick off, the pontifical is the Bishop's book (hence the name) and contains services which (generally only) the bishop would perform (e.g. consecrating churches, ordaining clergy). The sacramentary is the predecessor of the missal, generally only containing the priest's prayers for the mass (e.g. collect, secret, postcommunion.) As for blessings, where you will find them depends on who is doing the blessing and for what purpose. Votive masses are another can of worms, but they are special or extra masses. John Briggs On 26/10/2011 23:20, John Wickstrom wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Cecelia, I know something about some of these volumes. A source I have > found particularly valuable for such questions (not as well known as it > might be); > > Cyrille Vogel: Medieval Liturgy, An Introduction to the Sources (Pastoral > Press, 1986). > > > > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cecilia > Gaposchkin > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:38 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [M-R] technical liturgical questions -- offline? > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > Dear all, > > I hate to clutter the list with my technical queries, but this has in past > been such a wonderful resource for me. Is there anybody who would be > willing to correspond with me offline about the relationship between > blessings, the mass, votive masses, sacramentaries and pontificals? I > realize in trying to write something that I can't quite get my fingers > around some issues I need to understand, and preliminary reading has not > clarified my confusion, which is no doubt because I continue to be a notice > to these traditions. > > If so, please write me at [log in to unmask], or reply here > offline. And thanks to everyone for your indulgence. Apologies for > cluttering email in my general call for help. > > cecilia > > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave > medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or > to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our > web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4575 - Release Date: 10/26/11 > > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html