(2) Every employer who requests a person to analyse a sample of any material taken to determine whether it contains asbestos shall ensure that that person is accredited by an appropriate body as competent to perform work in compliance with ISO 17025.
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I suspect this is an issue that will be discussed at length at the conference on Tuesday.
It is worth noting that not all laboratories deal with asbestos in the same way with regard to chemical testing of the same sample as detailed below.
I’m happy to be contacted off list to discuss this further.
Regards,
Claire Stone PhD, BSc(Hons), AUS, MRSC
Quality Manager, i2 Analytical Ltd
Building 19, BRE, Watford, WD25 9XX
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From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Reg
Sent: 28 October 2011 13:14
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Subject: Asbestos ID - implications for other laboratory testing!
This is an issue which has been bugging me for some, but it’s often difficult to find time to write things down. However, with next week’s CL:AIRE conference in mind, now is perhaps a good time to raise the issue.
We schedule some soil samples recovered during a ground investigation for an asbestos “screen”, usually to confirm the absence of a significant risk, rather than because we expect (due to previous use of the land), or have seen (during the excavation of trial pits etc), significant amounts of asbestos.
When we schedule asbestos ID on a soil sample, some (but not all) laboratories are unwilling to undertake further analysis (for other potential contaminants) until they receive the results of the ID. If the result is non-detect, further analysis can be done (but after a delay). However, if the result is positive the laboratories are not willing to perform further analysis (especially where this requires sample preparation – drying & grinding). This issue does not occur if asbestos ID is not included in the test suite!
Whilst this approach might seem reasonable given potential H&S implications, it strikes me as nonsensical, given that if all the soil samples we recover during a ground investigation were rigorously examined, a significant proportion of them would yield a few asbestos fibres; but usually only a tiny amount (probably < 0.001% by mass).
Given the likely presence of asbestos in many soil samples (albeit in trace amounts), surely laboratories should either: (a) routinely screen all samples they receive and undertake no further analysis on samples yielding a positive ID; or (b) ensure that sample preparation and testing procedures are designed to prevent the release of airborne fibres, thereby providing “default” protection for laboratory staff in the event that some samples do contain asbestos fibres. It makes no sense to adopt a precautionary approach when asbestos ID is scheduled, but do nothing where it is not.
On a related matter I often find it necessary to cross-examine labs after the receipt of asbestos quantification results in order to establish what proportion of the result is associated with loose fibres and what proportion is “bound” in an ACM(s). Clearly, in the context of contaminated land risk assessment if the results are due to loose fibres, they are of far greater significance than if they are due almost entirely to most ACMs. UKAS\MCERTS protocol does not appear to take account of this distinction.
Regards
Mark Perrin
Director
Lithos Consulting Ltd
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South Milford
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