I’m there with you on that Liz.
I am sick of it appearing on my emails – it really doesn’t show
us in a good light as a profession and I’d much rather that Annie and her team
continue to do the great work they are doing in engaging with influential
groups or Central Government to get the message of the importance of our
service across.
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Liz McGettigan
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: bottled water
Nero
fiddled while Rome burned!
I can't believe this chain. It is ridiculous to ask CILIP to lead
on this it would make a mockery of the profession!
Let's put the same amount of energy into real advocacy
campaigns and show what libraries can do to deliver much wider agendas
From:
lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Ka Ming Pang
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: bottled water
Hello
I don't know if this has been taken forward yet, I asked someone at CILIP,
whether they'd be willing to back a campaign for saving money by not buying
bottled water.
This is what I was told.
"if you email us with your suggestion, it'll be passed to the correct
person for consideration: [log in to unmask]"
I thought perhaps since Ian Stringer was the person who first suggested this,
he might be the best person to take it up, or to present a better case
for support.
Ka-Ming.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Ian Stringer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This is the crux of my original observation.
My local newspaper had just revealed the amount of
money spent by North Yorkshire police on battled water. At the same time the
council was announcing library cuts to save a similar amount of money per
branch. As a North Yorkshire ratepayer I would rather see the money go on books
that police water. Especially as North Yorkshire water is some of the finest in
the world.
Its no comfort now to have no mobile service in my
village but to know that if I was arrested I could have some free water.
The main point was this
Many councillors are having to take the decision to
close libraries. They don't want to, but see no option. I think its up to
Librarians to point out other options to save money
Bottled water seemed a good starting point.
I think CILIP should take the lead on this
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:19 PM, John Dolan <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
Water,
water everywhere and not a book to read……
Back to
the point. The original brilliant observation was that this represents a large potential
saving in many council budgets. Has anyone been able to do the sums to find out
the national figure? Or to extrapolate suffiecient to use publicly? Can it be
used in lobbying?
And while
I’m at it, ask for tap water in restaurants (Some now bring it to the table
automatically). You could even send the money you save to Wateraid at http://www.wateraid.org/international/donate/
John
John Dolan
OBE, BA, Dip Lib, MCLIP
Tw
@johnrdolan
T. 0121
476 4258
M. 07508
204200
From: lis-pub-libs: UK
Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Renwick,
Fran
Sent: 13 September 2011 15:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: bottled water
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I don’t understand the
reference to drinking from a bathroom tap - I think you will find that
your employer has to provide an adequate source of drinkable mains water.
Personally I can’t
understand why people would prefer to drink water that’s been sitting in a
plastic cooler bottle for god knows how long, as opposed to clean and safe
plain tap water.
Fran Renwick| Assistant Head of
Libraries| Neighbourhoods |Derby City Council, Saxon House, Heritage Gate, Friary Street,
Derby DE1 1AN.
Telephone 01332 641726| Minicom 01332 380712 | www.derby.gov.uk
one Derby one council
From: lis-pub-libs: UK
Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian
Stringer
Sent: 13 September 2011 14:44
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: bottled water
But
thats my point in Yorkshire and most of the UK tap water is perfectly drinkable
and at least as good as some bottled waters. And its free. Don't be fooled by
advertisers claims!
Remember
Coca Cola were prosecuted for selling neat tap water.
see
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3523303.stm
On
Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Ka Ming Pang <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
But
what's the alternative?
We have water coolers in our libraries, and if we didn't then people would have
to go out to buy bottled water.. and you wouldn't really want to drink water
from a bathroom tap.
On
Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Carolyn Carter <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
I have at last had the information about Somerset CC's spend on
water, not as much as Yorkshire police, but at almost £18,000, it would still
buy a lot of books!
Carolyn Carter
----------------------------------
Our
Response
We
have provided data from the latest financial year 2010/2011. We are
providing total amount spent per directorate for Mains Water Coolers (plugged
into the mains system) and Bottle Water coolers.
Environment
Main
Coolers: £2,779
Bottle
Coolers: £0
Total:
£2,779
Community
Main
Coolers: £0
Bottle
Coolers: £3,047
Total:
£3,047
Children and Young People
Main
Coolers: £3,016
Bottle
Coolers: £4,444
Total:
£7,460
Resources
Main
Coolers: £4,500
Bottle
Coolers: £0
Total:
£4,500
Totals
Main
Coolers Overall Total: £10,295
Bottle
Coolers Overall Total: £7,491
We
do not provide bottled table water for meetings or other functions.
From: "[log in to unmask]"
<[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask];
[log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011, 14:17
Subject: Re: bottled water
Dear Ian
This was a major soap-box issue for me when I worked for the
public library service (made redundant last year). It is perfectly, fatuously,
expensively ridiculous to pay whatever we all pay for potable drinking water,
then buy in environmentally and monetarily expensive water.
I will do a FOI request here in Lincolnshire, if others will do
the same elsewhere. I only wish I had thought of this a good while ago.
SIncerely, TOni
PS
And what about the 'jiggers' - ridiculously small plastic containers of
bland milk substitute that our local council buys? I always needed at
least 3 per cup of tea. With a modicum of care and sense, jugs of milk
could be used once more.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Carolyn Carter <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:37
Subject: Re: bottled water
Excellent idea! I'll contact Somerset.
Carolyn Carter
From: Ian Stringer <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, 9 June, 2011 12:39:38
Subject: bottled water
My local council is under pressure when it was discovered the police force
spent £35,000 on drinking water last year. This is North Yorkshire where the
tap water is pure and libraries were up for closure to save £35,000 per branch!
It strikes me that many other
authorities spend lots on bottled water. Perhaps any one under threat should
pose a Freedom of Information question on costs of bottled water in their
authority.
Councillors don't like
closing libraries but do like saving money. Give them something else to save
and then they can gain kudos by saving libraries
Annie Mauger is asking what
members want from CILIP.
Heres an idea for CILIP
email a FOI enquiry to every
authority for what they spend on bottled water and what they spend on books and
send to the local press
--
Ian Stringer
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