It would also be worth mentioning, while
there is a large audience, that if anyone has any problem areas with Dewey that
they want pursuing, that they should forward them to Caroline Kent
([log in to unmask]) who is the CILIPDDC rep on EPC (and also the Chair) of
EPC. Unfortunately, she is on leave all this week, so can’t join in our
discussions. She is planning to get some new recruits for the Committee, and to
put a call out in the CILIP gazette and/or Catalogue & index, so watch out
for that.
And on re-reading my entry below, I should
have put “normally countries propose changes” rather than “normally
countries instigate”. It’s quite difficult trying to put things
accurately on the hoof!
Gill
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Yes, good question. Literary warrant would
be for new topics, not previously provided for, such as hand-held computers.
For changes to place names/regimes, such as you mention below, this would have
to be queried with EPC and I could ask Caroline Kent to follow this up for you.
I’m not sure what the timescale would be for this, and what the editorial
rules would be, but I would imagine, that unless there were some controversy,
that it might happen fairly quickly.
Normally countries instigate any proposed
changes they want to their own place names, particularly if they are Dewey
users, or they become aware of out-of-date information in classification
schemes, and there have been a number of expansions recently due to the work of
the translation teams (e.g. for the German and Swiss editions).
I’ll forward your question to
Caroline,
Gill
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CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jardine, Heather
Sent: 27 September 2011 12:04
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I am interested in the mention of "literary
warrant" - does this apply to all sorts of changes or are changes of
"fact" fast-tracked? I'm thinking of something like South Sudan -
there won't have been much published yet (although we do have something and
this came up as a query to me) but it is politically incorrect (literally) to
carry on using the number for Sudan. The same applies to changes of regime, of
course. How quickly can numbers reflecting these kinds of changes be made
available to us?
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In response to Jill’s request for info
about the editorial process:
Basically, what the CILIPDDC Committee
does is to try to represent the
The Editorial Policy Committee serves as
an advisory body to the DDC, with expert editors on different areas, who put
forward proposals for revisions, taking into account “literary
warrant” - i.e there has to be sufficient number of items published on
the new topic to justify it. There are also other National Committees that also
feed into the process, including ones from the
We try to have representatives on the
CILIPDDC Committee covering different subject areas (as well as different types
of library) who look over the papers and put forward comments. For computing we
are lucky to have Gordon Dunsire who is an expert in that area,
Gill
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Sent: 27 September 2011 10:42
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Hi,
I know that here at
Sheffield Hallam (where I work with Helen Garner) we are looking into and
probably will move from DDC22 to DDC23. However this will be the first time
where I will be involved in a reclassification project as someone doing the
reclassification. In my previous role elsewhere I would be one of the many
hunting out books and changing them on the system and on the spine labels. As
the classification side of reclassification is quite new to me, I for one would
find more information about the editorial process used useful. Particularly in
understanding how you/DDC team deal with fast changing and growing areas such
as computing.
Jill
Jill
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Sent: 27 September 2011 09:59
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Subject: Welcome to CIG e-forum
Day 2
Good morning everyone, and welcome to Day 2 of the CIG
e-forum on Reclassification. We are looking forward to lots of discussion again
today, so please do join in!
There was some interesting debate yesterday and Debbie has
posted a very useful summary of the discussions we had yesterday, so if want to
refresh your memory, or you’re joining us for Day 2, then that would be a
good starting point.
My name is Gill, and I’m a member of the Digital
Processing Team at the British Library, and also the CILIPDDC Minutes
Secretary. I was really interested in the discussions yesterday because
reclassification surfaces as a topic every now and again in the CILIPDDC
meetings and it’s nice to get views at a practical level.
When reviewing papers for schedule revision, we often weigh
up the impact of different options, and there are often opposing views amongst
the members on the extent to which libraries still reclassify, so it is good to
get information on this. The discussion then inevitably strays also onto future
developments which may lessen the need to reclassify in the longer term, which
is a topic we can move on to in the afternoon session.
Perhaps, to begin, though, we could pick up on whether those
libraries using DDC22 or earlier are planning on reclassifying to DDC23? That
topic cropped up a bit yesterday, but I think more discussion on this would be
useful.
I can then outline the nature of the changes in a later
post, and the context of the changes in relation to those for edition 22 and
21.
Also, I can outline what the Committee does in more detail,
if anyone would like more information? My colleague Caroline Kent would have
covered this in her talk at the reclassification event last week, but you
won’t all have attended that,
Gill
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