My daughter had an operation cancelled
through the use of an electronic thermometer in the anaesthetic room that was “being
trialled” despite having a normal temperature 15 minutes before using the
electronic thermometer that had been in use in the hospital for some time.
The anaesthetist who took the second
measurement wouldn’t accept that the trial instrument could give different
readings and refused to administer the anaesthetic.
Gareth
Gareth Davies
Biocemegydd Clinigol/Clinical Biochemist
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On Behalf Of Jonathan Middle
Sent: 11 September 2011 10:44
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Subject: Re: Mercury In
Thermometers - Does anyone perform a Risk Assessment or carry a spill kit for
Mercury in case of breakage?
Hi
Just a bit of personal information.
Last year I was in hospital after a minor op and my temperature was monitored
at four hourly intervals by electronic instruments. At one point I was
told I had to take paracetamol as my temperature had gone up by half a
degree. I asked the nurse whether it could be just a difference between
the several instruments they were using, but such a concept seemed
incomprehensible to her - all the thermometers must surely give the same
result! I asked how often they were checked and calibrated,
and that produced the response that 'someone probably does it' but she did not
know when or how and had never seen it done. Similarly, I discovered that
the balance used to weigh urine outputs seemed never to be checked or calibrated,
and his seemed also to be true for the several portable bladder scanners that
they used.
It seems that many/most frontline staff have no training in or knowledge of the
fact that the instruments they use every day might give different or incorrect
readings and need to be checked and calibrated. They believe implicitly
that the results they read off are absolutely correct and have no error and
that all instruments must read the same. I had a long conversation about
this with two trainee nurses. They were intrigued by what I told them
about measurement uncertainty, calibration and between-instrument variability
and surprised/concerned that no-one had explained this to them in their
training.
Jonathan
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Hogan, Tim <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Out of interest does anyone know how they
calibrate , the reference thermometers, do they use ice water and boiling
water?
Tim Hogan
Laboratory Manager
Clinical Biochemistry
NHS Foundation Trust
0845 155 3111 Ext 3036
www.basildonandthurrock.nhs.uk
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Sent: 10 September 2011 18:32
Subject:
Re: Mercury In Thermometers - Does anyone perform a Risk Assessment or carry a
spill kit for Mercury in case of breakage?
... But don't forget that you need to ensure proper calibration of the
electronic monitoring.
Regards Ian
Ian Hanning
Hull Royal infirmary
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Subject: Re:
Mercury In Thermometers - Does anyone perform a Risk Assessment or carry a
spill kit for Mercury in case of breakage?
Hi Darren
Risk Assessment – too high a risk – remove risk completely
replace with electronic temperature monitoring
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On Behalf Of Darren Ames
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011
2:16 PM
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Subject: Mercury In Thermometers -
Does anyone perform a Risk Assessment or carry a spill kit for Mercury in case
of breakage?
Mercury In
Thermometers - Does anyone perform a Risk Assessment or carry a spill kit for
Mercury in case of breakage?
It is a serious
question - although I agree it is not exactly the biggest issue we are dealing
with
Anyone considered
this one?
I would welcome
anyone's thoughts or excuse the prosaicness of the request a Risk Assessment
Thanks and Best
Wishes
Darren Ames
Clinical
Biochemistry Service Manager
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