Walter did retract his story, but too late, as most of the story was checked out by Knight and held up: the labotomising of the Royal child's mother; the girls very existence, are actually on record and many other records unbelievably were not trashed. Why he changed his story is not clear. The fantasist ridiculing was put forward probably as a cover for the pressure he was put under.
My grandmother was found drowned down a well, and is buried in the same graveyard as Gull. There are many local tales of hauntings by his grave. When the 100 year disclosure law regarding coroners courts was reduced to 90, I applied for records of my grandmother's,which took place in the church graveyard. I.was told that they had been sent to N.H.S.archive in Clacton. When applying there I was told they never arrived. Yet I had expressed interest before their alleged removal. Come on all you conspiracy theorists, where are you now!
I hate Masonic Conspiracy theories as much as they do.I have Masonic friends and don't like to piss them off. But the family have done some psychic and other exploration of our own. My grandfather seems to have been a Masonic server like Netley, and Great-grandfather was a bargee who delivered all manner of cargoes [ like corpses] from the East End of London to Suffolk and delivered coal to the houses by the church where the bodies were buried, so I do have a personal interest in this history which will no doubt have me labelled a fantasist too.
I agree with Mogg that Patricia Cornwall spent a lot of time and money proving to no great effect that Sickert was the Ripper. Jean Overton-Fuller's work is of more value.
Austin Spare's patch was south of the River Thames: more of a Richardson than a Kray, but nice to see the Pearly Kings and Queens' costumes in the museum that staged his exhibition last year. Nice also to see that he is being recognised by the Art establishment he rejected as the genius he was as well as just being a cult figure.
John.
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The argument for a Gull/Masonic conspiracy as presented in the Stephen Knight book ‘Jack the Ripper: the final solution’ depends largely upon the evidence provided to Knight by ‘Walter Sickert’ aka Walter Gorman, supposed illegitimate son of the painter Walter Sickert.
Iain Sinclair argued for Gorman/Sickert having been a fantasist, if an ingenious and charming one, in – IIRC- his ‘Hackney: that Rose-red Empire’ ( Hamish Hamilton, 2009).
Chris Josiffe
Hi again Mogg and all Ripperologists,
I know that there is vested interested in keeping Jack a mystery, but I am quite sure that most of the killings, aside from copycat or camouflage ones were explained in Stephen Knight's" J.t.R, the Final Solution", and laid the girls to rest. Two films: Depp's 'Fom Hell' and 'Murder by Decree', much B.B.C. research and a two part dramatisation for the centenary in 1988 all agree with this, despite dramatisation variation on detail. Sickert the Victorian painter and European noble confessed on two occasions that have made it into print: not to the knife work, but to identifying and even entrapping the associated victims for William Gull, Surgeon in Ordinary to Queen Victoria, an early vivisectionist and known to have incarcerated in asylums and lobotomised other women that had been embarrassment to the Crown. Gull had suffered and recovered from a stoke before the killings but was said to have impaired mental faculties as a result. He was reportedly incarcerated himself when the Queen found out, and another man who died on the day of his admission was buried in his stead, and his body was later taken to the same family grave upon his own death and local legend has it [ which I can personally attest to] that with the body of his wife, the grave holds three corpses. The 5 friends who had entertained Prince Albert at their brothel knew of an illegitimate child he had fathered to one of them, who was a Catholic, when he was an heir to the Crown and hence Church of England.
Another confession by Sickert is used by Patricia Cornwall in her book on the subject, but he made no mention of Gull on that occasion. The idea behind a confession is to clear one's conscience. Implicating another innocent man does not achieve that end.
The only occult angles involved occur as Gull, and Sickert were Masons, as were some of the Police who covered their tracks[ and that doesn't mean they approved of their actions, or knew of them at the start. Nor is it a bad reflection on Masonry generally which seems to have altruistic, if elitist, motives.It only tells us that rotten apples can spoil a barrel.] Psychics were employed at some levels of detection, and Stevenson's Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was being performed at the theatre in London at the time, and Gull had seem it.
You may have a point there Dave, something no doubt to do with an Ancient Egyptian burial rite of plugging up black holes. Speaking of the Theosophical Society, in his last article before he died AC wrote that, "To acquire a friendly feeling for a system, to render it rapidly familiar, it is prudent to introduce the Star to which the persons of the drama are attached. It is hardly one's first, or even one's hundredth guess, that the Victorian worthy in the case of Jack the Ripper was no less a person than Helena Petrovna Blavatsky."
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I'd add _to the general thread_ that AC may have hated mediums but if there was a chance of penetrating the chequebook or bodily orifices of a potential pupil he would quite probably have claimed to be Blavaatsky.s lovechild if not dressed up as her in order to speed the process. Need to read between his lines and read some pupils diaries etc
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David Mattichak doth schreibble :
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> No spiritist, once he is wholly enmeshed in sentimentality and Freudian fear phantasms,
> is capable of concentrated thought, of persistent will, or of moral
> character. Devoid of every spark of the divine light which was his birthright, a prey
> before death to the ghastly tenants of the grave, the wretch, like the mesmerized
> and living corpse of Poe's Monsieur Valdemar, is a "nearly liquid mass of
> loathsome, of detestable putrescence."
>
> The student of this Holy Magick is most earnestly warned against frequenting
> their seances, or even admitting them to his presence.
> They are contagious as Syphilis, and more deadly and disgusting. Unless your
> aura is strong enough to inhibit any manifestation of the loathly larvae that have
> taken up their habitation in them, shun them as you need not mere lepers! It
> occurs in certain rare cases that a very unusual degree of personal purity combined
> with integrity and force of character provides even the ignorant with a certain
> natural defence, and attracts into his aura only intelligent and beneficent entities.
> Such persons may perhaps practise spiritualism without obvious bad results, and
> even with good results, within limits. But such exceptions in no wise invalidate the
> general rule, or in any way serve as argument against the magical theory outlined
> above with such mild suasion.
It seems to me that, in Crowley's case, this is
more in the way of "Do as I say, not as I do."
He didn't use 'mediums', true; he employed 'seers'
(his wife, Rose, among them), and the ill effects
of such employment / abuse have been detailed by
many authors over the years, including Crowley
himself.
Cors in Manu Domine,
~ Khem Caigan
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"Heat and Moisture are Active to Generation;
Cold and Dryness are Passive, in and to each Thing;
Fire and Air, Active by Elementation;
Water and Earth, Passive to Generation."
*Of the Division of Chaos*
-Dr. Simon Forman