A lot of the people – not all, but a lot – on the Pagan Studies
email list are actually Pagan themselves, as well as studying it academically.
~Caroline.
From: Society for The
Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Anthony H.
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 7:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FW: [Pagan Studies] Feature on what
rituals may have sounded like at Stonehenge
I do find it interesting that
scholars who study Pagan practices and their history/anthropology would firmly
shut the door on those who wish to know more or refine their knowledge about
their own practice.
Those on the outside define those on the inside?
Strict criteria based on 'scholarly activity' in this case reeks of a
superficiality (judging membership on the status of the user rather than the
quality of his/her content) merely lends itself to base elitism and simple
snobbery.
There are few enough attempting to validly study and carve out viable programs
in all forms of esoterica. Leaving learned and politely interested
practitioners as an untapped resource may prove to be academic suicide.
Anthony H.
http://exeter.academia.edu/AnthonyHoltberg
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:14 PM, kaostar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
academia.edu;
yes great resource/networking place
closed groups, open groups, inbetweengroups; it's like the height markers at
Disneyland or the maximum age to join the armed forces, they do that for a
reason. People might not like the particular reasons for any entry criteria,
but there's no point in banging on a door that is already labelled as "if
you
are x or are not y then you don't get in". Join the ones you can, ignore
the
rest, and if you do insist on forcing your way into a group that avowedly
doesn't want you it's going to be painful and isolating anyhow, so what's the
point?
a paraphrase of the entry criteria for here is pretty much 1. ability to
discuss in academic fashion, and 2. not be an arse, and we are rewarded with a
huge, diverse, proactive, supportive community that is 99.9% a delight to be
part of
rogue scholar i like!
"Independent scholar" used to mean "independently wealthy so can
take the time
to do research for the pure pleasure"
nowadays it is closer to "under- or unemployed academic, often poorer than
a
church mouse (any denomination of)"
Dave E (of the latter form of IS)
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From: Khem Caigan <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:59:29
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Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FW: [Pagan Studies] Feature on what
rituals may have sounded like at Stonehenge
> On 9/14/2011 3:17 PM, Charlie Farrow wrote:
> >
> > I wasn't aware that it was a list that belonged to a particular
> > institution nor that it was hidden from the riff raff. It sounded
> > interesting in terms of the material that was being forwarded here
and
> > seemed to imply that independent scholars and people with genuine
> > research interests might be welcome, but that's fine, I was mistaken.
I
> > shall creep back under my rock knowing myself to be a want-wit
hoddypeak
> > and quote Monty Python "How shall we fuck off oh great
one?"
>
> A lot of doors firmly shut; still others are wide open.
>
> The folks at the *National Counsel of Independent Scholars*
> ( http://www.ncis.org/
)were kind enough to disabuse me of
> /my/ notion of what an "independent scholar" is after I had
> joined.
>
> The term "outsider scholar" is taken. Until something better
> comes along, "rogue scholar" will just have to do ;)
>
> rogue scholar
> @UrbanDictionary
> http://tinyurl.com/5tsosds
>
> For purposes of networking, allow me to recommend Academia.edu :
>
> http://academia.edu/
>
> Congenial environment, with lots of friendly scholars from all
> around the globe.
>
> Cors in Manu Domine,
>
> ~ Khem Caigan
> <[log in to unmask]>
>
> "Heat and Moisture are Active to Generation;
> Cold and Dryness are Passive, in and to each Thing;
> Fire and Air, Active by Elementation;
> Water and Earth, Passive to Generation."
>
> *Of the Division of Chaos*
> -Dr. Simon Forman
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"Magic is the highest most absolute and divine
knowledge of natural philosophy advanced in its works and wonderful operations
by a right understanding of the inward and occult vertue of things, so that
true agents being applied to proper patients, strange and admirable effects
will thereby be produced; whence magicians are profound and diligent searchers
into nature, they because of their skill know how to anticipate an effect which
to the vulgar shall seem a miracle."
- Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis, Preface from Harl. 6483