What is this supposed to mean?
V. Kerry Inman, M.A., M.Div., Th.M.
Ph. D. Candidate, Arabic and Hebrew
University of Pennsylvania
Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:56:47 -0500
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Jim
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:40 PM, V. Kerry Inman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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What are we doing here?? Isaiah 14:12-14 is not about Satan!
There is not an ounce of scholarship in this.
V. Kerry Inman, M.A., M.Div., Th.M.
Ph. D. Candidate, Arabic and Hebrew
University of Pennsylvania
Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:09:37 -0700
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.htmlDear Rachel,the fall of Satan is mentioned in Isaiah 14, 12-14:12 How you are fallen from heaven,O Day Star, son of Dawn!How you are cut down to the ground,you who laid te nations low!13 You said in your heart:"Iwill ascend to heaven;I will raise my throneabove the stars of God;I will assembly on the heights of Zaphon;14 I will ascend to the top of clouds;I will make meself like the Most High.15 But you are brought down to Sheol,to the depths of the Pit.But in full volume the myth of the fall of Satane and its angels is exposed in the "Secret book"of Bogomils.According to Bogomils, initially Satanael was directly associated with the Lord, and some dualist versions even refer to him as God’s firstborn. However, he was filled with pride, and he sought to place his power above God, managing to involve one-third of the angels in his revolt. God threw the traitors in the abyss and removed the syllable “el”, a symbol of divinity, from Sataniel’s name. Satan lost his light and his face became “like molten iron.” Nevertheless, God was merciful and allowed Satan to create his own world – that was our Earth. Thus, Satan became the prince of the earthly world as the evil god. He devised and molded man in his likeness from clay, then entered angels’ souls, once true to God, disguised as the bodies of men and women.Therefore, Creation was divided between the heavenly, invisible, immortals that belonged to the Good God, and the earthly, visible, humans, controlled by the Evil God. Such is the dualist portrayal of the world. They believed that humans, subject to the power of Satan bodies engulfing the souls of angels from the heavenly creation, constantly strive to leave the devil’s creation to return to the Good Lord. For them, communication of the Word in their native tongue, the imitation of Christ (imitatio Christi), helped spawn a return to the kingdom of heaven. So, they did not fear the stakes – fire allowed these heretics to escape the sinful kingdom of Satan, the flesh of the bodies he created, to return to the kingdom of the Good God as free souls.Some pages of the "Secret book" in Latin, as well in English translated by professor Thomas Butler, are available on:"Heretically"yours:Georgi Vasilev, Ph.D., D.Litt.Professor of European and Medieval StudiesSofia 1784, 119 Tsarigradsko shose bdMob. 00359 885/969087E-mail: [log in to unmask]P.P.Dear Colleagues, allow me to send you this actual information:Free communications 23. Medieval dissent: Bogomils and other religious dissidents on the Balkans
24 August 2011
- Georgi Vasilev: Bogomilism – an important precursor of the Reformation
- Thomas Butler: Bogomil Cultural Syncretism
- Théofanis L. Drakopoulos : Questions méthodologiques sur le bogomilo-catharisme
- Hisatsugu Kusabu: Approaches of New Heresiology and Beyond – the Bogomils, a case study
- Надежда Драгова: Рисуваното богословие на богомилите
- Erika Lazarova: The Bogomil-Cathar’s philosophy as a theory of total social criticism
- Maja Angelovska-Panova, Andrew P. Roach: Punishment of Heretics: Comparisons and Contrasts between Western Inquisitors and Eastern Churchmen
- Dick van Niekerk: Crossroads of Bogomils and Cathars? New light on the “Church of the Latins” in Constantinople (12th, 13th century)
- Grażyna Szwat-Gyłybowa: Modern adaptations of the Bogomils dissent: a few thoughts about the Bulgarian case
- Asya Bereznyak: A Conversion Gone Awry? A Different Perspective on the Christianisation of Bulgaria and the Rise of Bogomilism
- Nadejda Miladinova: Reuses of a Byzantine anthology in the Early Modern Period – a case study on the Panoplia Dogmatike of Euthymios Zygabenos
Moderator: Georgi Vasilev
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and cultureThanks everyone for your help! Great suggestions!
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