On 8/11/11 8:58 AM, "John Gilbert Ph.D." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello Adrian
>
> It seems to me that
> 1) a disembodied attitude is "la condition humaine" and
> 1b) in our consciousness (or phenomenologically) we cannot be anything else
> then alienatiated or disembodied - for instance: anticipation is disembodied
> or alienation per definition
> 2) it does reminds me also of Marx' alienation which I had to study long
> time ago
> 3) the idea of embodiment itself is an idealisation / a "forstellung" / a
> representation what it should have to be if there was no condition humaine
> (1)
> 3b) the idea of embodiment is a scientific reflection, for instance we know
> how gestalt works (perception) which is subject of science, but we do not
> actually experience or appreciate a perception gestaltwise.
>
> Anyway - what comes to mind when reading your question.
>
> Kind regards
>
> John
>
> (Bruges - Belgium)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Harris" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:40 PM
> Subject: Terminology: Embodied - Disembodied
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a book chapter at the moment and have a question about
> terminology. Although 'embodiment' is an aspect of human subjectivity
> rather than a fact of physical reality, what does it mean to speak of
> being disembodied? Does it make sense to say, for example, “Western
> civilization creates a more disembodied self'? One can armust be embodied to
> exist, in which case this needs to be phrased
> differently - something like: "[t]he experience the self has been
> essentially disembodied" (Burkitt, 'Bodies of Thought', 1999; 45).
>
> This does mean composing quite convoluted sentences, so I'm interested
> in how other people have tackled this.
>
> Cheers!
> Adrian