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[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Layard on Rioting! This is worth reading http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/uk-riots-political-classes
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, CRAIG NEWNES <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
There was a nice piece in the Times suggesting that the one thing missing from any analysis was the simple fact that humans can be violent and enjoy it - but the writer let herself down by suggesting such violence could be "analysed." We do what we do.Craig
From: Liz Cunningham <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, 11 August, 2011 15:03:23
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Why the riots?
Sorry
I’m not suggesting we need to see their faces – obviously – but other interviews with young people have just had them stand with their back to the camera…
But
I’m just worried about all the things that have been disappearing from the bbc – Darcus Howe etc…
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Sent: 11 August 2011 14:59
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Subject: Re: Why the riots?
Thanks Jacqui
I find it interesting that in the 2nd link on girls, if you do click on the link in the bps article to watch the clip on the bbc, that it has now been censored in some way and you cannot see the girls, only hear them.
Liz Cunningham
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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jacqueline Akhurst (J.Akhurst)
Sent: 11 August 2011 14:37
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Subject: Re: Why the riots?
Dear all,
Mark, thanks for your succinct ‘take’ on the recent events – I believe you capture the essence of the problems, and would encourage you to submit it to the ‘Psychologist’, in response to the commentary on the BPS website at:
http://www.bps.org.uk/news/coverage-riots-increases-anxiety
http://www.bps.org.uk/news/why-do-we-worry-more-if-girls-riot
http://www.bps.org.uk/news/social-media-and-social-unrest
Richard, in response to your question, we have been working on a response during this week (collaborative effort always takes a bit more time), and we hope to have our ‘piece’ up on the BPS website in the morning. We agree that there need to be clear messages that locate the difficulties at the centre of our socio-political system and the dominant rhetoric to which we have been subjected.
Jacqui A
From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of richard pemberton
Sent: 11 August 2011 07:53
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Why the riots?
This does feel like an important political moment are we going to be trapped in a hang them flog them and fill up more prisons blind alley yet again or actually look at what it going on here? Does the special interest group have anything to say? Mark is right it is complicated but some simple clear messages need to be injected into the national debate?
Richard
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Jacqui Lovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The people participating will however be criminalised, unlike the bankers, and the ramifications of their actions will carry over into their lives for some time to come…..
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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sue Roffey
Sent: 11 August 2011 05:28
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Subject: Re: Why the riots?
Yes, exactly. Think I might print out some copies of this to take round with me to counter the simplistic blame narratives that are springing up.
When greed is acceptable in obscene bankers bonuses it puts sports shoes in a different context
Pleased, however, to see some more thoughtful commentary in the Guardian.
The violence towards ordinary people has been distressing on several counts, including clouding the issues that Mark has raised.
Sue Roffey
On 11/08/2011, at 7:56 AM, Mark Burton wrote:
Appalled by the standard of debate bout these events....here's my take on it:-
Why the riots?
The neoliberal capitalism of Thatcher, Murdoch, Blair, Bush, Obama, China, the banks, Jonathan Ross, Richard Branson, has…..
Taught us that what is important is material possessions
Made whole sections of the population superfluous
Funded the gaining of possessions through high levels of personal and household debt
Destroyed traditional communities based on workplace, destroying the sources of self worth and responsibility
Ridiculed collective values, privatised and marginalised social provision
Commercialised childhood
Forced many working people into unemployment, underemployment or insecure, casual low wage work, stressing and undermining family life
Fetishised the trivial, the celebrity, cheapening culture and celebrating selfishness and boorishness
Encouraged rocketing inequality
Shown that exotic levels of violence against people and their towns and cities is just fine
Encouraged the import of cheap labour and thereby sown distrust and division among working people
Crashed, increasing poverty, inequality, precariousness, resentment and further weakened collective, social, cultural resources.
So why the surprise?
The riots are not a protest
The riots are not caused by public spending cuts
The riots are not a result of criminality
The riots are not riots
The riots are not class action
The riots are not a result of bad parenting
The riots are not the politics of envy
The riots are all these things and none of them
The riots are a result of a coming together of forces and processes. There is no simple explanation and no explanation in the behaviour of the individual looter.
To understand the riots requires an understanding of how economy, politics, ideology, belief, motivation, morality, socialisation and the dynamics of belonging and alienation work together as system and systems.
Don’t tell me that is an excuse, and don’t tell me how tough you are going to be. Tell me you see that this is complicated and it requires a completely different way of living our society.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. The harvest of neoliberal capitalism is well and truly home.
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