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Thanks Mogg, I've received your email on my 'official' email address and replied there; very interesting and positive.

I've found Gardell's book very useful and cited it in a piece I'm writing about David Lane/Wotanism and the far right's search for myths for their vaguely-defined 'Northern' homeland for another anthology (themed around Myth, Nation and 'Celticism').

There's also some interesting stuff coming out of teh articles and follow-up posts at the 'Who Makes the Nazis' blog (http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/) which is interested in the fascist strands in neo-folk and industrial music cultures.

Best wishes,
Andrew

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:54 AM, mandrake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Samuel Wagar

Political religion

It's good to see that there are people on the list plugged into the issues without overblowing it too much.
It is something I've raised  before and the pagan movement is aware of the issues and is engaging and where necessary has excluded neo-fascists -
and as is said, on facebook there have been a few posts from people not wanting to have NR folk amongst their friends.

Whilst I sympathise, I do also think there are some instances where one might let someone in on spec in order to engage and hopefully change minds -
some are beyond that but others are just confused. I've been involved with a new network called "The Companions of Seth" which specifically is
non heirarchical,not racist, not into petty power games ..creative, adventurous open minded etc
previous Setian groups have been v ambiguous on these issues and COS does seem to include some "survivors" -
its tricky because previous setians have some excellent work, especially liturgy - and we have mutual respect - although we Companions have a different way of seeing the mythos and want to
move the current away fromthe  New Right to what we see as its more natural home in the Liberatarian socialist domain.

We are currently "clothing" our tradition and formulating a mission statement.
I may be able to submit something to the proposed anthology as mentioned in an earlier post by (?)

Senebty

Mogg Morgan

wrote:
>  current neofascist attempts to infiltrate occult circles.
 
They've always been here. At least in North America the Odinist movement and Asatru is crawling with them. The first organizer of Northern Traditions in N.A., Helen Christensen, is a fascist. She's now retired and living on Vancouver Island, an elderly woman not active in the movement anymore. The book "Gods of the Blood : the Pagan Revival and White Separatism" by Mattias Gardell (Durham NC: Duke U Press,2003) is a very good history of the movement. Gardell teaches at Stockholm University in Sweden.
 
Did anyone else notice the similarities between Brievik's ideology and the ideas of the Legion of the Archangel Michael / Iron Guard, the Roumanian fascist group that Mircea Eliade was involved with in the 1930s and sympathetic to throughout his life? Particularly the idea of martyrdom through committing a detestable act - like Judas condemning oneself to Hell for the sake of the "greater goal of liberation of Christendom"?
 
Best,
 
Sam Wagar