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Dear Ken Thanks. I am sure that you will be thorough in your response. Just one additional fact for your consideration is that at NID we have had a policy of engaging students with real world situations from way back in the late 80s. Over the years there is a huge body of student work that has reached market but not all of them are on the policy level however this is different from most other schools that I know of. Very little of this is unfortunately published and there is much history work that is pending on this front. NID undergraduates have gone on to establish the design profession here in India and they have a critical presence across many design sectors, some of which they have pioneered and they have worked their way up the order to be at leadership levels in many verticals and i have been trying to capture these contributions on my blog but much work remains to be done. More recently many students have incubated their own companies and we have a design business incubator that has incubated thirty start ups in the past four years. Many of these experiences inform design thought and action on campus and the past forty years has been a period of much experience but little documentation unfortunately. With warm regards M P Ranjan from my imac at home on the NID campus 13 July 2011 at 10.45 pm IST ------------------------------------------------------------- *Prof M P Ranjan* *Design Thinker and author of blog - www.Designforindia.com<http://design-for-india.blogspot.com/> * E8 Faculty Housing National Institute of Design Paldi Ahmedabad 380 007 India Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054 email: ranjanmp@g <[log in to unmask]>mail.com <[log in to unmask]>web site: http://homepage.mac.com/ranjanmp <http://homepage.mac.com/ranjanmp>web domain: http://www.ranjanmp.in <http://www.ranjanmp.in/>blog: <http://www.design-for-india.blogspot.com> education blog: <http://www.design-concepts-and-concerns.blogspot.com> education blog: http://www.visible-information-india.blogspot.com <http://www.visible-information-india.blogspot.com/> ------------------------------------------------------------ On 13 July 2011 18:04, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Dear Ranjan, > > Thanks for your response. This is a long post, with added material to > read and thinking to do. This will take me a few days. Let me read, think, > and respond next week. > > Yours, > > Ken > > MP Ranjan wrote: > > --snip-- > > Dear Ken > > I think that you misunderstand the statement "Action" before "Analysis". > This represents a mindset problem in my view of the present scientific > management community that runs most of our governments and our industrial > and economic activities. This mindset comes from the other side of the > "River". > > --snip-- > --