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Hi Claire, and all (especially Andrew whom I used to work with!), Am following this discussion with great interest, as we have been discussing community engagement at Bangor University Library lately, and responding positively to requests for visits / access from local community members (plus planning more proactive steps to let people know they can use the university library); but of course are only able to allow access to printed materials, as e-resources are subject to licensing agreements. I hadn't actually thought about access to e-resources for former university members either, but it's a really good point to raise, and is also an issue when people have formally/officially finished their course at an institution but are actually still working on dissertations etc (as sometimes happens). It is really difficult when you are wanting to offer equitable access to all to high quality academic resources, but due to the increasing numbers of resources bought only in electronic form, are unable to actually offer the same resources to all. Vashti (User Support Librarian, Bangor) Stephanie Taylor wrote: > Hi Claire, > > I think the licensing of e resources is really changing library services > and access for many outside the 'core' groups of users. I have been > looking at interlibrary loans - see worrying statement from the USA by > the Association of Scientific, Technical and Medical Publishers that > could effectively end interlending. This blog post gives a good summary > - http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/2011/06/09/a-second-front/ > > I hadn't thought about alumni, emeritus staff etc in this context, but > it seems to me that the benefits of being offered continued access to an > academic library are, potentially, severely restricted with regard to > access to current research information held in electronic format not > being available. > > I dislike the the erosion of the rights of libraries to make decisions > to make decisions about who is allowed to see the information they hold. > This seems to me to be a significant change which has been creeping up > on us over many years. > > Best wishes, > Stephanie > > Quoting Claire Stevens <[log in to unmask]>: > >> Steph >> >> The majority of our electronic resources are supplied by Ebsco, whose >> licences specifically state that access for alumni is not permitted - >> this also covers emeritus staff. So nothing to do with costs, its the >> licensing restrictions that are dictating this. Our authentication >> system is at present set up in such a way at the moment that we >> cannot pick and choose individual resources to be made available, >> which is why I was interested to know what other institutions offer >> in terms of e-access. >> >> Claire >> >> Claire Stevens >> ------------------ >> Deputy Head of Library >> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John >> Derriford Road >> Plymouth >> PL6 8BH >> Tel: 01752 636700 x3118 >> Email: [log in to unmask] >> >> ****************** >> >> I'm told the licences cover only employees and students of the >> university. >> >> However, I'm grateful for what I do get from the library! >> >> Andrew >> >> ----- >> Andrew Buxton >> Lewes, East Sussex, UK >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Stephanie Taylor <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2011, 15:44 >> Subject: Re: Library services for Emeritus Professors >> >> I'm interested to know why ejournals and presumably other electronic >> resources are not included in ex-staff membership. Is it down to >> costs because of licenses or security because you are no longer a >> member of staff, or other reasons? >> >> It seems like letting people see only half the library without this >> access, so defeating the object of offering retired staff etc >> membership. >> >> Best wishes, >> Steph >> >> Quoting Andrew Buxton <[log in to unmask]>: >> >>> I didn't reach the dizzy heights of professor or reader, but having >>> recently retired from an academic-related post I have found the >>> value of the ex-staff membership is somewhat tempered by the number >>> of journals which are only on online access, now I no longer have a >>> user ID. >>> >>> ----- >>> Andrew Buxton >>> Lewes, East Sussex, UK >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Claire Stevens <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2011, 14:49 >>> Subject: Library services for Emeritus Professors >>> >>> Dear All >>> >>> We are considering our library services for Emeritus Professors and >>> Readers, and would be interested to know what other institutions >>> offer in terms of borrowing allowances, interlibrary loans, access >>> to e-resources (and how you manage this in terms of licence >>> restrictions), access to photocopying facilities and any >>> support/enquiry services. >>> >>> I'd be grateful for any feedback, particularly if you have received >>> feedback from the users themselves. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> Claire Stevens >>> >>> Claire Stevens >>> ------------------ >>> Deputy Head of Library >>> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John >>> Derriford Road >>> Plymouth >>> PL6 8BH >>> Tel: 01752 636700 x3118 >>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, >>> Plymouth, PL6 8BH >>> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk >>> Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College >>> Founded in 1840 >>> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered >>> charity the trustee >>> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England >>> No. 986239 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Stephanie Taylor >> UKOLN, University of Bath >> http://www.ukoln.ac.uk >> >> E- [log in to unmask] >> T - 07966 341396 >> >> > > > > Stephanie Taylor > UKOLN, University of Bath > http://www.ukoln.ac.uk > > E- [log in to unmask] > T - 07966 341396 -- Ms Vashti Zarach, Llyfrgellydd Cefnogi Defnyddwyr User Support Librarian Y Brif Lyfrgell/Main Library, Prifysgol Bangor/Bangor University, Ffordd y Coleg/College Road, Bangor, Gwynedd. LL57 2DG Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/bangorunilibrary Twitter: http://twitter.com/BangorUniLib Ffon/Tel: 01248 388826 E-bost/Email: [log in to unmask] Twitter: http://twitter.com/vashti_z Rydw i'n gweithio yn y pnawn yn unig / I work afternoons only. Gall hefyd cysylltu a Jenny Greene, Cynorthwy-ydd Cefnogi Defnyddwyr: / You can also contact Jenny Greene, User Support Assistant: [log in to unmask] / 01248 383572.