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Rats. I'm not aware we ever got a report from SFE - would you know whether they sent this out to all HEIs, or was it done on a smaller scale? On 19/07/2011 12:49, Lesley Morrice wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > > > We did suggest this to Anthony Hill, but he said that when they tried > this previously, they got very little response from the HEIs. > > > > Lesley > > > > > > Lesley Morrice > > ACCESS Centre Manager > > Student Services Centre > > Portland Building > > University Park > > Nottingham > > NG7 2RD > > > > Tel:0115 8466114 > > Fax:0115 9514376 > > > > My hours of work are: > > Mon - Thurs 8.a.m. till 5.00 p.m > > Fri 7.45 a.m. till 12 noon > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Simon Jarvis > *Sent:* 19 July 2011 12:28 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Backlog of Assessments > > > > Simon, > > I think that this is an excellent suggestion, i.e. to send HEIs a list > of students who are awaiting assessment. As you say, it may take some > time in the first instance to contact them all, but ultimately it > would prevent disability departments having to deal with bad > assessments arising out of telephone interviews and all that may > entail (sorting out recommendations, clarifying the HEI's position, etc.) > > For what its worth in my previous life as a freelance needs assessor I > did a few telephone assessments over the years, mainly for OU students > with acute anxiety and agoraphobia. I never liked doing them and > usually had to recommend huge amounts of IT training - my suspicion > often being that had the student been able to see some of the > equipment demonstrated they'd have picked programs more attuned to > their needs. I just don't see that providing en masse telephone > assessments is the right solution to the problem. > > Charmaine, what you suggest is fine in principle, but I don't think > many students would bother to go and have the follow-up session having > had their equipment recommendations green-lit. > > I'm happy as list owner to collate responses to the Disabled Students > Stakeholder Group. > > > On 19/07/2011 12:01, Simon Morris wrote: > > I would agree. Telephone assessments are just wrong. There is already > such a difference in quality of assessment coming through. It seems > to me that there is just so much emphasis on numbers and targets > rather that quality of content. Dare I say a bit of a "stack them > high, sell them cheap" philosophy. For example two assessments I have > received in the past two weeks have equipment that is not suitable for > the students course. The assessor in both cases hasn't contact us for > course information and hasn't even stated my correct name or contact > details. > > > > Don't get me wrong, I know there is a need for time scales, I am just > not keen on taking a short cut to get people through a system they > might have changed their mind about, or be just confused of what to do > next, is the right way forward. Perhaps giving HEI's a list of > students outstanding would help, we can then do our bit in progressing > them. Yes I know it would take time we don't have, but I would rather > that than get some half baked assessments through, were students may > have to go back later to the assessor for further equipment or a > change in support. > > > > Just my view, I am sure that many will disagree. > > > > *Simon Morris | Student Support Manager* > > + Student Support |Cleveland College of Art & Design | Green Lane | > Middlesbrough | Cleveland | TS5 7RJ > > ( +44 (0)1642 298768 | 7 + 44 (0)1642 288828 | * > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> | " > www.ccad.ac.uk <http://www.ccad.ac.uk> > > logo email <http://www.ccad.ac.uk/> > > > > *From:* Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Gerard Conroy > *Sent:* 19 July 2011 11:35 > *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Backlog of Assessments > > > > I am opposed to telephone assessments for DSA purposes. The one coming > to be assessed often does know what technology is available to help, > during the assessment I demonstrate software to a student and allow > them to "play" themselves. This is impossible with a telephone > assessment and without such an opportunity the assessment must be > flawed. I do not know what the Becta 'Home Access Assistive Technology > programme' was trying to determine but I would be surprised if the aim > was similar to a DSA assessment. Please do not make this the norm. > > > > > -- > Simon Jarvis > Head of Disability & Dyslexia Service > Queen Mary University of London > > Student and Campus Services > Room FB 2.30, Francis Bancroft > Mile End Road, London E1 4NS > Tel: 020 7882 2765 > Fax: 020 7882 5223 > www.scs.qmul.ac.uk <http://www.scs.qmul.ac.uk> > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. 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