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I was responding to the names, Jim, and just making a joke about the spectator. that's all. On 19 July 2011 20:14, Jim Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The only reasons Atticus seems to be known at all today are because he was > a patron of Cicero and he was wealthy, but more for the former than the > latter, because his money was through inheritance and real estate deals, and > only his patronage seems to have been of any real note. I suppose it is that > connection, as patron of the arts, that has motivated Harry Polkinghorn and > the publisher of the current pub. to name their publications The Atticus > Review. Though it seems very likely that neither of these two Atticus > Reviews are published by wealthy people. My connection with the current > Atticus Review is via the editor of the mixed media section, Matt Mullins, > who is doing interesting work himself in online literary/multimedia. > > ja > http://vispo.com > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" < > [log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]**AC.UK<[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:22 AM > > Subject: Re: War Pigs featured at Atticus Review > > > There are, though, Jim.more serious, but ambivalent, resonances: > > "Atticus' wealth grew by inheritance and through his skillful dealings in > real estate. Using this wealth to support his love of letters, he > maintained > a staff of slaves <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Roman_slaves<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_slaves>> > trained as > copyists <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Copyist<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyist>> > and > book-binders<http://en.**wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding> > **>, > > and published, amongst other things, the works of his friend > Cicero<http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/Cicero<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero> > > > > " > > (our friend Wikipedia) > > "Mr Pope was with Sir Godfrey Kneller one day, when his nephew, a Guinea > trader, came in. 'Nephew, (said Sir Godfrey), you have the honour of seeing > the two greatest men in the world.' - 'I don't know how great you may be, > (said the Guinea-man), but I don't like your looks: I have often bought a > man much better than both of you together, all muscles and bones, for ten > guineas!' > > -Dr Warburton. From Anecdotes ... of Mr Pope ... By the Rev. Joseph Spence. > 1820. > > > best > > dave > > > On 19 July 2011 12:07, Jim Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > i read that pope dubbed addison atticus. not up on my atticus's, though. >> >> >> ja >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" < >> [log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]****AC.UK<BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@** >> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <[log in to unmask]>> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:26 AM >> >> Subject: Re: War Pigs featured at Atticus Review >> >> >> No, Jim,: atticus - addison- spectator - review. >> >> yes? >> >> :) >> >> On 19 July 2011 07:26, Jim Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> i'm not sure what you mean, david. the audio loops, you mean? >> >>> >>> ja >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" < >>> [log in to unmask]> >>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]******AC.UK<BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@**** >>> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <[log in to unmask]**AC.UK<[log in to unmask]> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> > >>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:19 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: War Pigs featured at Atticus Review >>> >>> >>> things repeating: sort of makes one feel like a kind of spectator >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 July 2011 00:02, Jim Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> yes. same name. same atticus? 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