With this I think it's more a matter that some of the rhetoric of the Left has become part of a conventional mental kit that has been adopted at institutional level (in the Arts Council, in libraries for example) and deployed by careerists. Or something like that. I really could give precise examples (names) but it wouldn't be a good idea. Would it? best dave On 16 July 2011 19:54, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > On 16 Jul 2011, at 18:33, Jamie McKendrick wrote: > > **>**Much in the arts today is openly barbarous. {8} The Left in > particular, disappointed of change in British society, has made literature > its rallying point, and tends to look at imaginative writing as > pamphleteering to achieve its purposes. But poetry in particular eludes > ready formulation. It demands concentration, the trained ability to read and > a willingness to entertain new forms and materials. > > > This is where I gave up last time - with no attempt at all, let alone > any examples, to support this statement about the triumph of barbarism. And > while I'd agree that poetry may make specific demands on its readers, why > assume that the "Left" in particular is responsible for an inability to read > with more subtlety. It's like the guy has some kind of political gripe which > he hasn't found a way of clarifying. > > > Oh dear, this is a very difficult one. I don't really want to agree with > what it says but I'm afraid I almost do. The left's general attitude to a > lot of the poetry I like, for example, is highly influenced by half-baked > notions of political 'purpose'. This goes right back to the 30's but it > surfaces every so often, most recently in the mid 90's when some very vague > ideas about 'the domestic now being the main focus of the political' led to > any poetry which did not meet certain criteria being labeled as elitist, > formalist, up its own arse etc. No matter the fact that most of this > 'elitist formalism' was written by die-hard lefties - if it don't mention > who's doing the hoovering then it aint real... the fact that such rubbish > was spouted by future Blairites and literary careerists only adds to the > frustration of course. > > Cheers > > Tim A. > -- David Joseph Bircumshaw Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/