On Jun 16, 2011 7:53 a.m., "sharon naylor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> have to comment that calling the mental health crisis team in my location would be a pretty ineffective action (due to budget cuts/no staff etc)- think I would be more likely to go with police or ambulanceDate: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:36:48 +0000
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> Carr
> The mental health first aid is just the same as BLS does it have any competence consideration. Remember if you a dealing with a case on first aid u a not providing the cure but u signpost the person to the right place that's all u need to do.
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> Patience
> On 16 Jun 2011, at 06:21, Carr Barnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Oh...and also ...isn't there a post training competence issue to consider? How do you ensure competence is kept up? :)
> Regards,
> Carr
> On Jun 16, 2011 7:18 a.m., "Carr Barnes" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'm sure Simon will contribute later with his expertise but to play devil's
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>> advocate isn't there evidence to say that asking someone about the specifics
>> of how they plan to do it can actually increase the risk of them carrying
>> out the act?
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>> Regards,
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>> Carr
>> On Jun 16, 2011 7:03 a.m., "Patience" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> The person speaking to the individual who is contemplating suicide should
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>> ask how the person intends to do it. Then one can call the mental health
>> crisis team. It's called mental health first aid and there is training
>> available for managers, oh or hr regards to handling such situations.
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>>> Patience
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>>> On 15 Jun 2011, at 22:55, sharon naylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>> was thinking something more along the lines of a written action
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>> plan/rationale for those actions
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>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:26:26 +0100
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>>>> We advise managers to call an ambulance in such circumstances as it is a
>> potential emergency.
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>>>> Regards,
>>>> Carr
>>>> On Jun 15, 2011 11:21 p.m., "sharon naylor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>> > another musing - have just been contacted by a past colleague wanting
>> advice with a situation they were experiencing(have to stress at this point
>> that my colleague is not OH/clinical). Someone has contacted my colleague by
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>> phone and text giving the impression that they are suicidal, it is known
>> that the individual is "depressed" following multiple bereavements. Now I
>> know what I would do in such circumstances but started to ponder about a
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>> policy/action plan for those that may well be contacted as a
>> friend/peer/line manager who may not have any codes of practise for
>> guidance. Does any list member have such a thing?
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