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Carr The mental health first aid is just the same as BLS does it have any competence consideration. Remember if you a dealing with a case on first aid u a not providing the cure but u signpost the person to the right place that's all u need to do. Patience On 16 Jun 2011, at 06:21, Carr Barnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Oh...and also ...isn't there a post training competence issue to consider? How do you ensure competence is kept up? :) > > Regards, > > Carr > > On Jun 16, 2011 7:18 a.m., "Carr Barnes" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I'm sure Simon will contribute later with his expertise but to play devil's > > advocate isn't there evidence to say that asking someone about the specifics > > of how they plan to do it can actually increase the risk of them carrying > > out the act? > > > > Regards, > > > > Carr > > On Jun 16, 2011 7:03 a.m., "Patience" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> The person speaking to the individual who is contemplating suicide should > > ask how the person intends to do it. Then one can call the mental health > > crisis team. It's called mental health first aid and there is training > > available for managers, oh or hr regards to handling such situations. > >> > >> Patience > >> > >> On 15 Jun 2011, at 22:55, sharon naylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > >>> was thinking something more along the lines of a written action > > plan/rationale for those actions > >>> > >>> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:26:26 +0100 > >>> From: [log in to unmask] > >>> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>> > >>> We advise managers to call an ambulance in such circumstances as it is a > > potential emergency. > >>> Regards, > >>> Carr > >>> On Jun 15, 2011 11:21 p.m., "sharon naylor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > another musing - have just been contacted by a past colleague wanting > > advice with a situation they were experiencing(have to stress at this point > > that my colleague is not OH/clinical). Someone has contacted my colleague by > > phone and text giving the impression that they are suicidal, it is known > > that the individual is "depressed" following multiple bereavements. Now I > > know what I would do in such circumstances but started to ponder about a > > policy/action plan for those that may well be contacted as a > > friend/peer/line manager who may not have any codes of practise for > > guidance. Does any list member have such a thing? > >>> > ******************************** > >>> > Please remove this footer before replying. > >>> > > >>> > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > >>> > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >>> > > >>> > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > >>> > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > >>> ******************************** Please remove this footer before > > replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >>> CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > >>> ******************************** Please remove this footer before > > replying. > >>> OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >>> > >>> CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > >> > >> ******************************** > >> Please remove this footer before replying. > >> > >> OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >> > >> CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH