I think you have answered your own question here - I have a vision of someone standing up in court trying to explain the rationale for putting such a kit on site but having to explain that it could only be used between 9 - 5........... ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goodyear, Terri Sent: 06 June 2011 16:55 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis Importance: High The reason for the suggestion was initially the sensitised people who still work in the vicinity of the products they are sensitised to...in case they reacted.........although the only known case of this sort of reaction was an office based worker (who worked daytime office hours)..... I don't know....if we are going to provide it I think there should be cover across both the day and night shift but then we will not get our medics to work a night shift....although they are Dr/G.P.'s they are employed for their specific knowledge of disease fields not to administer medical treatment....well only in the case of an emergency i.e. use of an AED- we have security who are trained to do this on a night shift! Terri P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carr Barnes Sent: 06 June 2011 16:38 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis So Terri Am I right in my interpretation that the concern is for employees who may have a reaction due to a personal rather than a work related allergy (triggered by the girl who had the nut allergy)? If so and considering that only daytime reactions are considered a priority (by your esteemed colleagues) is this really a route to be going down? Regards, Carr On Jun 6, 2011 4:28 p.m., "Goodyear, Terri" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > As I said a DR following his recent AED update thought that it was > something we needed on site.....I have been asked to propose it (lucky > me)...I too have raised the questions about no medics on nights....there > answer was we just don't administer on nights!!!!! I personally want to > steer well clear as there are too many variables....I know we can't use > the adage of never happened or needed so therefore it won't..... > > > > > > > > Terri > > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Naylor, Sharon [HMPS] > Sent: 06 June 2011 16:03 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > > Have to say that I would think a bit more about the minutiae of ths > proposal, like who is going to administer and in what circumstances, > PGDs or PSDs?, if something happens when a "medic" isnt available what > happens then? > > ________________________________ > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Goodyear, Terri > Sent: 06 June 2011 15:59 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis > Importance: High > Sensitivity: Confidential > > No, we don't have 24hr medical cover...the 'medics' we have are > qualified Doctors and range in specialities we have cardiac, respiratory > and cancer Specialists amongst some regular G.P.'s- most keep their hand > in. The 1 incidence was a nut allergy.....ate something she thought was > ok but wasn't.....this is a proposal to have one on site.....we do have > several employees that are sensitised to products and continue to work > here in different roles but still within the manufacturing area....as > yet not one (touch wood) has reacted so badly they need any medical > intervention. > > > > > > > > Terri > > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Naylor, Sharon [HMPS] > Sent: 06 June 2011 15:27 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > > I am intrigued..... > > > From a clinical perspective would be interested what these > "anaphylactic" employees are actually reacting to? If this reaction is > so severe to warrant an anaphylactic kit should more thought be given to > reducing exposure? The initial post said "the medics" would respond - > are we to assume that you have 24 hr medical cover ? > > ________________________________ > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of richard chalkley (IAH-C) > Sent: 06 June 2011 15:21 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis > Sensitivity: Confidential > > Terri, > > > > From a health and safety perspective, you need to be able to respond to > emergencies that are caused by your operations. The Health and Safety > (First Aid) Regulations require equipment, facilities and personnel to > be 'adequate'. > > > > Its back to the old nugget of do a risk assessment. From your post, if > the box is not OTT in price, you could say that the control measure is > reasonable, it would just need a system of check to ensure that it was > available and in date. > > > > It is not uncommon for those working with bees (In my experience) to > provide this type of response. Sounds like it would be appropriate for > you. > > > > Others may wish to disagree... > > > > Regards, > > > > Richard > > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Goodyear, Terri > Sent: 06 June 2011 15:13 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Anaphylaxis > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > > Hi List, > > Any help on this matter would be much appreciated..... > > > > I work for a pharmaceutical manufacturer, we use in the manufacture of > those products , materials which are known skin and respiratory > sensitizers. Following are most recent AED update it has been discussed > within the circle of medics which are employed here that we should have > an anaphylactic kit. We do have 4 individuals on site that are classed > as 'anaphylactic' and carry epi-pens, 1 has reacted at work and needed > to be shipped off to hospital. > > > > I would not be expected to administer or use said kit as the medics > would respond but I am wondering whether this is OTT and is needed. > They are looking at a sealed box provided by a local pharmacy so there > would be no checking daily of said box as the pharmacy would know when > it is due to expire etc. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Thanks > > > > Terri > > > > > This communication came from one of the Napp Pharmaceutical group of > companies below: > Bard Pharmaceuticals Limited (company number: 0987562), Napp > Pharmaceutical Group Limited (company number: 0884285), Napp > Pharmaceuticals Limited (company number: 3690299) Napp Pharmaceutical > Holdings Limited (company number: 3486244), Napp Laboratories Limited > (company number: 0192707). 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