Hynod ddiddorol. Tybed fod yr Arch wedi defnyddio argraffiad gwahanol o Under Milk Wood lle na chynhwysir ' To begin at the beginning'. Go brin fod hyn o dragwyddol bwys wrth gwrs. Ond wrth gymharu'r fersiwn Cymraeg â'r gwreiddiol gallwn weld cryn dipyn o addasu er mwyn cadw ieithwedd Dylan dan reolaeth yn y Gymraeg. Gwych o gyfieithiad! Chapeau, Monsieur Jim! Paul W. Birt, PhD Chaire d'Études celtiques, Université d'Ottawa, 70, rue Laurier,(131) Ottawa, K1N 6N5 Ontario Canada www.modernlanguages.uottawa.ca/celtic.html Tél. (613)562-5800(3767) Téléc/Fax (613)562-5138. -----Original Message----- From: "Saunders, Tim" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:26:32 To: <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dan y Wenallt Rhaid fy mod wedi'u breuddwydio, felly. Ond mae'r fersiwn Eidaleg a brynodd fy ngwraig yn Fenis yn dechrau rhywbeth yn debyg i Per cominciare nel principio, sy'n ymgais o lew am y gwn i ond ddim hanner mor agos ati ag y byddai'r Gymraeg wedi bod. Hmmm. Gyda llaw, erthygl hynod ddiddorol gan Bernard Hoepffner, 'Proxy Literature', yn TLS yr wythnos hon. Sôn y mae am ymateb gwahanol ieithoedd i gyfieithu, ac i effaith gwaith cyfieithu arnynt hwy yn eu tro. Yn iach, Tim Tim Saunders Cyfieithydd Translator Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Rhondda Cynon Taf Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council ________________________________ From: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: 27 May 2011 16:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Dan y Wenallt Yn annisgwyl braidd, dewisodd T James Jones adael y geiriau agoriadol 'To begin at the beginning' heb eu cyfieithu. (Argraffiad 1968). Paul W. Birt, PhD Chaire d'Études celtiques, Université d'Ottawa, 70, rue Laurier,(131) Ottawa, K1N 6N5 Ontario Canada www.modernlanguages.uottawa.ca/celtic.html Tél. (613)562-5800(3767) Téléc/Fax (613)562-5138. ________________________________ From: "Saunders, Tim" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:51:56 +0100 To: <[log in to unmask]> ReplyTo: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dan y Wenallt Ife 'I ddechrau yn y dechreuad' yw'r geiriau agoriadol? Ddim yn cofio. Yn iach, Tim Tim Saunders Cyfieithydd Translator Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Rhondda Cynon Taf Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council ________________________________ From: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: 27 May 2011 15:50 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Dan y Wenallt Cywiriad: 'Mae hi'n nos o Wanwyn....' Paul. Paul W. Birt, PhD Chaire d'tudes celtiques, Universit d'Ottawa, 70, rue Laurier,(131) Ottawa, K1N 6N5 Ontario Canada www.modernlanguages.uottawa.ca/celtic.html Tl. (613)562-5800(3767) Tlc/Fax (613)562-5138. ________________________________ From: anna gruffydd <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:33:59 +0200 To: <[log in to unmask]> ReplyTo: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Dan y Wenallt Ffafr os gwelwch yn dda. Dwi wedi colli fy nghopi o Dan y Wenallt T James Jones a does gen i ddim amser i'w archebu o Gymru drwy'r post. Mae'n siwr bod gen rywun ohonoch chi gopi. Y ddau ymadrodd yma sydd isio:- "bible black village" a "the fishing boat bobbing sea". Diolch o galon am unrhyw gymorth Anna This transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may contain sensitive or protectively marked material up to RESTRICTED and should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately. 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