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Dear Sarah and Alon,
 
Sorry !! But I have the feeling after reading your mail today  that I read this ideas before . Let!s the light of God to  be with you to clean old remorses, love, geisha














 

> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:13:37 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: How to establish an environment that calls out the most and the best of everyone
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Dear Sarah,
> 
> I rejoined this list yesterday because I had this insight of the 
> impressive work of Can Sonmez into poetry and cancer that I thought 
> Brian can benefit from. As I was concluding the email, I could not 
> resist but asking for a critique of my thesis on a critique of LET.
> 
> I should like to stress very strongly that my thesis dealt with ideas 
> rather than people and was a critique of what I thought, until Jack's 
> reply yesterday, was the LET approach (Jack Whitehead's website and 
> publications).
> 
> I do not deal with persons. I deal with ideas.
> 
> I was left unsupervised when Jack retired in 2009 and we could not 
> draft the thesis I originally wanted on a therapeutic AR tool until 
> then.
> 
> In fact, Jack did not see the thesis until after my Viva Voce when I 
> made it a point to come to him in person, the evening of my Viva, and 
> for him to be the first to get me a congratulatory drink at the 
> University's bar.
> 
> I think it is all in my thesis that could be accessed from Jack's 
> website at http://actionresearch.net/living/serper.shtml.
> 
> I also summarised the major critiques here, in this forum today.
> 
> I think we live in a time where practitioners require a support and a 
> self-care tool. We are objectified, dehumanised, degraded, made 
> saturated and turned into tools and objects. Then, we are tossed like 
> used goods.
> 
> I think the living contradictions and dialectics should be turned into 
> a self-care cathartic tool in which the practitioner, with the help of 
> fellow practitioners, create a dialectical AR account in the course of 
> which he/she identifies, delves into and processes situations in 
> his/her practice that make him/her feel and experience angst, 
> frustration, anger, exclusion, isolation, alienation, poor 
> relationships with self and others, and ontological void and 
> insecurity. Then, he/she can work out, with the help of colleagues, 
> action plans to dialectically and poietically transmute these poor 
> experiences and situations into a more meaningful, fulfilling and 
> securing existence in, with and towards the world for himself/herself.
> 
> To do this, I turned Jack and Jean's original question into my, how do 
> I lead a more meaningful existence in the world for myself and 
> developed a method that turns auto-dialogical logging for oneself into 
> dialogical blogging with others. I offered this blogging method as 
> better than Jack's youtube method that I criticised. I also 
> criticised the turn into 'inclusionality' that I argued to new-agist 
> and cultist and lacking scholarship. I described my dialectical AR 
> aternative to LET
> 
> Hence, my conclusion is that LET should abandon its epistemology focus 
> and the 'inclusionality' idea and youtube and move into a more 
> ontological, cathartic and auto-poietic form of dialectical, living, 
> concrete and embodied, AR.
> 
> The main task in hand now for us all is to support the exhausted, 
> saturated and degraded practitioner as he/she is putting his/her 
> knowledge and LET accounts (explanation of practice and educational 
> transformation) into the public domain.
> 
> When I first said this to Jack in 2004, he said that this is the task 
> of psychology not education. I did not like this division of labour 
> as I think the practitioner's well-being and health is the interest of 
> all and is interdisciplinary. I still hold this view.
> 
> Alon
> 
> Quoting Sarah Fletcher <[log in to unmask]>:
> 
> > First of all, I would like to congratulate Alon for offering Jack, 
> > his PhD supervisor, such a worthy and a valuable retirement gift. 
> > Despite Jack's long standing invitation to engage with him about his 
> > ideas and his influence in educational contexts, there have been 
> > several who have attempted to do so - in fact in front of me here as 
> > I write this email I have the video (such a generous present) from 
> > David Tripp, who came all way from Australia to talk with him. 
> > Ironically, David levelled a very similar criticism of Jack's work 
> > at that time, namely that Jack was actually not drawing out evolving 
> > educational theories in the doctorates that he supervised. Instead, 
> > he was enabling reified accounts of practice about Lived 
> > Educational Theories - caught in the act of writing like, one might 
> > say, a butterfly pinned to a display board for anatomical 
> > dissection. I, too, last year tried to respond to the BERA Research 
> > Intelligence article where Jack invited discussion in an e-seminar. 
> > As Brian knows (thank you Brian for alerting me to this 
> > conversation today) sadly, Jack declined to engage in any dialogue 
> > whatsoever. Such strange behaviour, it seemed to me...
> >
> > My focus, and I would be grateful to understand more from Jack 
> > himself (apologies, Marie, I know you like to answer) about his 
> > interpretation of Habermas and its application in relation to 
> > validating living educational theory doctoral accounts , resides here:
> >
> > Validation appears to depend, for living educational theory doctoral 
> > submissions, on ascertaining whether an individual student has 
> > offered a credible account of events i.e. it seems believable by 
> > someone in the same location at the same time as an event described. 
> > This validator need not necessarily have even been present during a 
> > critical incident, for example, and might not be the person working 
> > most closely alongside the student as events, which he/she has 
> > recounted, progressed. The account has to be a 'believable' one. 
> > Now, taken to its logical conclusion we might have this scenario? 
> > This student decides to 'get a PhD' and elects to study with Jack. 
> > Feeling very annoyed at the apparent slow progress of his studies, 
> > he contacts another university but when he finds this will not be a 
> > speedier route at all, returns to study with Jack, he weaves his 
> > account of events around those sources of information Jack has 
> > listed for doctoral candidates to read. He adapts his language to 
> > align with others' living theories
> > and he tells a good yarn. That it isn't validated by anyone other 
> > than his wife (also a student studying with Jack) is no concern.
> >
> > The examiner of the said thesis is unaware that there were others in 
> > the same location at the same time as events recounted and that 
> > they have been (not anonymised - that doesn't convey the nature of 
> > the depersonalisation that has occurred) rather excluded so that 
> > their voice cannot be heard. The validation cycle is closed. They 
> > are outside the validation process. I wonder if that could happen? 
> > If telling a believable account is at the root of the validation 
> > process for living educational theories, it could?
> >
> > Of course, the problem then is that when the innocent (or naive?) 
> > cite the merits of the account in a justification of the living 
> > educational theory approach, they would be extending the lie, the 
> > cheating, would they not? Any listener would be unaware?
> >
> > So - Alon, I would be grateful for your assistance (I admire your 
> > work, as you know). Could you give us insights into the major points 
> > where you have engaged in critique of Jack's approach to action 
> > research, please? What major conclusions were drawn?
> >
> > Many thanks for reading my lengthy email!
> >
> > Just an indication of my passion to learn!
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > Sarah Fletcher
> >
> > Editor-in-chief for IJMCE (The International Journal for Mentoring 
> > and Coaching in Education - EMERALD Press) and Convenor for the BERA 
> > Mentoring and Coaching Special Interest Group (2005 to date). My 
> > website at http://www.TeacherResearch.net
> >
> >