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italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies Thank you, Professor Martino. We should all take a look at these; I do not know them myself! Best wishes, Deanna Shemek On May 18, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Giovanni Iamartino wrote: > italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies > Dear Colleagues, > > This is a late answer to Michelle Rioux's query. Although what > Deanna Shemek has been envisaging is most interesting, I wonder > whether Isabella Zanni Rosiello's books are what Michelle had been > looking for. Here are the details: > a) Andare in archivio, Bologna, Il Mulino 1996 > b) Archivi e memoria storica, Bologna, Il Mulino 1987 > c) Gli archivi nella società contemporanea, Bologna, Il Mulino 2009 > d) Gli archivi tra passato e presente, Bologna, Il Mulino 2005 > e) Ricerche in fondi moderni: orientamenti metodologici, Bologna, > Arti Grafiche Tamari 1966 > > Best wishes, > Giovanni Iamartino > > > Prof. Giovanni Iamartino > Dipartimento di Scienze del Linguaggio > e Letterature Straniere Comparate > Università degli Studi di Milano > piazza S. Alessandro 1 > 20123 Milano > tel. 02.503.13570 fax 02.503.13563 email [log in to unmask] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Deanna Shemek > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [I-S] working in Italian archives > > italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian > studies Dear Colleagues, > > It looks as though we have a small groundswell of interest in > creating some sort of a resource for archival research beginners. > Thanks to all who have offered constructive help to the original > inquirer, Michelle Rioux, including Tatiana Crivelli whose reply > stands below. Thanks to Michelle Rioux for taking seriously the > potential of this Listserve. We have a lot of expertise among us. > > At this very moment, deadlines pending on several sides, I am not in > a position to design a proper tool in response to this need. I would > like to think about it and to consider (and I invite others to > consider) what would be the most productive setting in which to > design a usable object in the near future. Offhand, a couple of > options come to mind, based on the many good responses we have seen > on the list. > > One would be a purely electronic resource, an open site where we > could place a module of 10-15 essential questions that scholars > could be invited to answer for specific archives. There could be a > bulletin board space below where users could add information or > queries. These pages could be preceded by a general introduction > authored by several of us in collaboration. Another option would be > a book with general chapters on the subject at hand, supplemented by > an online resource that could be kept up to date. In order to make > either of these resources high quality, the ideal scenario would > bring together a team of us in one place to discuss the shape of it > and to write, together, the principal and guiding pages, testing > them out on users. For this, we should apply for funding, for > example from the NEH or the University of California Humanities > Research Institute at UC Irvine, which regularly funds seminars for > group projects with specific projected outcomes. And we would need > someone to monitor the electronic part for accuracy, editing, > quality control long-term: a Webmaster, I guess. > > Ini the next few weeks, I will be considering whether I have time > and can find the funding to propose and organize such an initiative > in the next year or so. If I do, you will hear from me again with an > announcement or invitation. If others wish to take up the task > instead (or had already planned to do so), I hope they will > communicate with the Listserve so that we don't squander our efforts > on redundant or competing projects. If don't plan to do this but you > know of a funding source that would serve our purposes, please > convey this as well. For now, I will be archiving (so to speak) all > the replies we have shared on the topic. > > > Best wishes to all. > > Deanna Shemek > U California, Santa Cruz > > > On May 16, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Tatiana Crivelli Speciale wrote: > >> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >> studies >> Dear all, >> at the university of Zurich you can find an online training program >> which is called 'Ad Fontes', a very helpful introductory program on >> archives in general, with possibility of training specific >> subjects. To use it, just log in and create your account (you don't >> need to understand the instructions in german in detail, just try >> with some intuitive thinking...). It provides a very helpful >> starting point for archives research in general: >> >> http://www.adfontes.uzh.ch >> >> Cordiali saluti >> >> Tatiana Crivelli >> >> ************************* >> Prof. Dr. Tatiana Crivelli >> Romanisches Seminar >> Universität Zürich >> Zürichbergstrasse 8 >> CH - 8032 Zürich >> Tel. +41 44 634 36 17 >> [log in to unmask] >> www.rose.uzh.ch/crivelli >> >> REDUCE - Print only when necessary. REUSE - Turn unneeded print- >> outs into scrap paper. RECYCLE - Recycle when you're through. >> >> >> >> On 16-mag-2011, at 13.27, Philip Cooke wrote: >> >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies >>> Here’s one I prepared earlier for a student going to the BNCF. >>> Brief, but it should do. Make sure you get the biggest stamp you >>> can find. If they do a wax seal at Edinburgh tanto meglio >>> Phil >>> Egregia direttrice, >>> Con la presente confermo che XXXXXXXX è una dottoranda presso il >>> dipartimento d’italianistica di questa università. Per le sue >>> ricerche avrebbe bisogno di consultare giornali, libri e riviste >>> italiani dei primi anni del novecento. La prego di volere >>> fornirle, nei limiti del possibile, l’assistenza di cui avrebbe >>> bisogno nel corso delle sue ricerche presso la XXXX >>> From: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies [mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> ] On Behalf Of Sarah Blanche >>> Sent: 16 May 2011 11:38 >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [I-S] working in Italian archives >>> I completely agree with Deanna Shemek on the benefits of an online >>> guide for users of Italian archives. >>> On this subject, can anyone offer advice to the list on the best >>> wording of a formal letter of introduction in Italian for >>> postgraduate students visiting archives for the first time? >>> Best wishes, >>> Sarah Cockram >>> Dr Sarah D P Cockram >>> School of History, Classics and Archaeology >>> University of Edinburgh >>> Room 1.22, Doorway 4 >>> Teviot Place >>> EH8 9AG, UK >>> [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:01:48 +0200 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [I-S] working in Italian archives >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies I suppose I cheated. I bought Robert Davidsohn's many >>> volumed Storia di Firenze, shipping them back and forth across the >>> Atlantic, and found every reference to archival documents in the >>> ASF he made was true and one could re-find them. Dante scholars >>> ought to use him as he is magnificent on medieval Florence. It is >>> a thrill to hold documents that speak of being signed to the >>> ringing of the bells of Santa Reparata or San Lorenzo with all the >>> citizenry gathered around, speech acts. In war time on >>> battlefields, instead of peace treaties, people would be summoned >>> to the beating of drums. I fell in love with the notarial signs. >>> And also how international they are. Dovetailing with documents in >>> the Genova archives (badly damaged by a British bomb you have to >>> walk past still sticking out of a wall), and where the document in >>> question I sought had a great wine stain spilled across it. >>> Dealing with documents in Montpellier, in Barcelona, in >>> Westminster Abbey, learning of others, now lost, in Naples and >>> Constantinople, of this network of Guelf Italians abroad in exile, >>> arranging loans to support the Popes' wars at the same they waged >>> paper wars, writing political tenzoni, collecting Provencal >>> lyrics. I found archives gave a full-blooded dimension to literary >>> texts that no one taught me to look for with library work. And I >>> often found literary texts lost in archives where one least >>> expected them. It doesn't seem to matter what period or figure >>> one works with, the skills being transferable between centuries >>> and between states. >>> Julia Bolton Holloway, Florence >>> >>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Filippo Sabetti, Prof. <[log in to unmask] >>> > wrote: >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies >>> Good morning from Montreal. >>> I am following with particular interest this discussion., As a >>> political scientist who often has had to do archival research, I >>> would love to know more about the practical experience of others >>> far more knowledgeable than I am. >>> It took more than a week for me to get a sense of how to read the >>> archival catalogues and what to look for in the State Archives in >>> Palermo (with archives in different locations), Caltanissetta, >>> Potenza and Rome. It was much easier to do research in the >>> Pretura Archives and Local Library archives as these had better >>> catalogues and were more easily accessible. >>> I learned also from the way others had used the same sources, just >>> by seeing how they cited them in their published work. I decided >>> to begin there and not before long I developed a good sense of how >>> and what to look for in other fondi and sources. >>> One practical issue immediately came up: how to take notes. In my >>> first experience I used 5by8 note cards, and copied everything by >>> hand, including the source at the top of each card. Nowadays, I >>> guess it is much easier with a lap top… >>> A story is told among archivists in Palermo that when Denis Mack >>> Smith started his two-volume project on Sicily, he visited >>> l’Archivio di Stato in Palermo. Took a good look around and never >>> visited it again. I guess he did not need to spend time in >>> archives to write a history of Sicily. He had accumulated enough >>> from his previous work. >>> Filippo.Sabetti >>> Political Science >>> McGill University >>> From: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies [mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> ] On Behalf Of Emily Michelson >>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:06 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [I-S] working in Italian archives >>> When I was working on my doctorate, students returning from the >>> archives were asked to write a report on their experience as a >>> guide for other students. The results were compiled into a big >>> book that sat in the secretary's office. The initiative was short- >>> lived and erratic, but very useful for what it was. So I'd like to >>> second Deanna Shemek's suggestion of a collaborative practical >>> guide for Italian archives, and add that perhaps it can include a >>> wiki section on specific archives and libraries; it could thus be >>> easily updated with rapidly-changing information such as >>> renovations, policy changes, and special closures. I will always >>> remember being excoriated for requesting a book from a room that >>> was under renovation, even though the sign explaining the >>> prohibition had been moved out of sight. >>> Emily Michelson >>> -- >>> Dr. Emily Michelson >>> Reformation Studies Institute >>> Lecturer in History >>> University of St Andrews >>> 71 South St. >>> St Andrews, KY16 9QW Scotland >>> +44 (0) 1334 462881 phone >>> +44 (0) 1334 463334 fax >>> [log in to unmask] >>> From: Deanna Shemek <[log in to unmask]> >>> Reply-To: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies <[log in to unmask] >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 12:18:25 -0700 >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Subject: Re: [I-S] working in Italian archives >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> The responses in this string have been most interesting. It does >>> seem, however, that Michelle Rioux's question has evidenced a >>> need for a pragmatic guide for users of Italian archives. >>> Something more than an "Italian Archives for Dummies" but less >>> than a three-tome index of the archives of Italy. It's rather sad >>> that for such an important dimension of research there is no basic >>> "How To" book. How to get started, what to expect in terms of >>> restrictions, how to begin parsing an archive, typical holdings of >>> state archives in Italy, how to organize your time in an archive, >>> what range of assistance may be available from archival >>> personnel , contrasts to expect between large and small archives, >>> standard archival etiquette, tricks of the trade, etc. This would >>> be a great collaborative project for archival researchers to >>> produce, perhaps online. >>> Deanna Shemek >>> On May 11, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Julia Bolton Holloway wrote: >>> >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies For access to Italian libraries and archives you need a >>> letter from your Chancellor or similar officer of your university >>> and your passport. You'll find Chancellors rather like writing >>> such documents and affixing gold seals, etc.. Make photocopies of >>> it, keeping the original, to give to the libraries and archives. >>> Libraries and archives tend to open at eight in the morning, and >>> then go moribund in the afternoons. You can find their hours on >>> the web and thus plot your movements around these.Be ready to >>> divorce yourself from everything except pencils, a pen, paper, >>> computer, the other objects being placed in a locker. There have >>> been deep funding cuts so staff will be over-extended with work. >>> But libraries and archives in Italy are magnificent. What period >>> are you working in? Adriano Capelli, Hoepli, is a great help with >>> paleography, etc. >>> >>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Michelle rioux <[log in to unmask] >>> > wrote: >>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian >>> studies >>> Hello-- >>> >>> I am wondering: could anyone recommend a good book or other >>> resource--in either English or Italian--that serves as an >>> introduction to working in Italian libraries and archives? Does >>> something like this exist? (I am a graduate student whose >>> experience in this is limited so far.) I realise that one gets >>> more savvy with experience, and that much learning like this has >>> to take a trial-and-error format. However, a general overview >>> would be useful, in addition to what can be gleaned from >>> individual institutions' websites. I am particularly interested in >>> Venice--the Archivio di Stato and the Correr library. >>> >>> Tante grazie, >>> >>> Michelle >>> ********************************************************************** To >>> join the list, send the message: join italian-studies YOUR NAME >>> to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address >>> it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the >>> message: leave italian-studies to: [log in to unmask] In >>> order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write >>> to: [log in to unmask] For further >>> information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/italian-studies.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Julia Bolton Holloway, Mediatheca 'Fioretta Mazzei', 'English' >>> Cemetery, Piazzale Donatello, 38, >>> I-50132 Firenze, Italy >>> http://www.umilta.net http://www.florin.ms http://www.ringofgold.eu >>> http://piazzaledonatello.blogspot.com >>> ********************************************************************** To 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http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/italian-studies.html Deanna Shemek Professor, Italian and Comparative Literature Mail: Cowell College Academic Service Center University of California, Santa Cruz 1156 High Street, Santa Cruz CA 95064 Tel. 831/459-2609 (messages) Fax 831/459-4880 ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join italian-studies YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave italian-studies to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/italian-studies.html