Hi Suzanne, and list, While I don't have experience w/data collected by a commercial firm, I have supervised several PhDs at Essex which involved collecting dr/patient data in NHS (National Health Service) venues (practically about to be privatised, following the salutary ex. of US healthcare, but that is another story! Tory Story 2, you might call it...) I'm also Dept Ethics Officer and the university-wide process we use asks a preliminary Q about whether external ethics approval has been obtained. If the answer is "yes", the university normally does not require further internal review. This is probably aimed at processes like the NHs, which in my students' case took 6-8 months, hundreds of pages of paperwork, insurance clearance, presentations to committees of doctors, etc - clearly once a project has made it thru that, the IRB review is redundant. Standard expectations include destruction of recordings by a certain date, typically end of PhD. I doubt you could collect data in the UK from NHS centres, even if from a private firm, w/o going it thru that, so I have not seen the Q come up before. Of course, there is also private healthcare... best, -peter- Peter L. Patrick E: [log in to unmask] Dept. of Language & Linguistics Ph: 1206 87.2088 Office: 4.328 W: http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~patrickp From: Variationist List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suzanne Evans Wagner Sent: 12 April 2011 15:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Using private, commercial corpora Hi everyone, One of my students plans to use a corpus (audio and transcripts) of doctor-patient conversations that were recorded by a private company. We have signed the company's in-house legal agreement so that we could obtain initial access to this corpus. The data look great, so the student would like to use them as the basis for long-term work. However, there's always the possibility that the company might choose to withdraw access down the road, and this is a concern. Does anyone have experience of managing these kinds of relationships? What additional legal documentation did you draw up, if any? How was your local IRB involved? Thanks, Suzanne Dr. Suzanne Evans Wagner Assistant Professor of Linguistics Department of Linguistics and Languages Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 48824 Tel: +1 (517) 355-9739 http://www.msu.edu/~wagnersu<http://www.msu.edu/%7Ewagnersu> http://splab.lin.msu.edu/fos ________________________________ The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to variationist sociolinguistics. To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1 ######################################################################## The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to variationist sociolinguistics. To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1