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Hi Marko,

I am playing around with scripting conjunction analyses as I want to write out files I can use further. In this context, I am, for completeness sake, trying to implement the global null approach. In a message some time ago (09/19/2004), Tom suggested that the threshold that should then be applied to each image individually is the assumed significance, corrected for the number of effects ("If a0 is your desired false positive rate, use (a0)^(1/K) where K is the number of effects conjoined. For 0.05 and 3 effects this is 0.3684"). However, this was stated in the context of FDR-corrected thresholds, and I wondered if this is also true for uncorrected thresholds. Can anyone confirm that this approach is generalizable?

This is indeed the correct way to obtain an uncorrected threshold for K tests of the Global Null, using a "min T" (equivalently, "max P") conjunction test.  Going further, if you want to create an image of uncorrected Global Null Conjunction P-values, then you simply take products of P-values:  i.e. you would create uncorrected P-value images for each of the constituent tests and then take the product of those K images to get uncorrected Global Null P-values.  If you wanted, you could then submit *those* P-values to voxel-wise FDR. (But they are completely valid, usual P-values otherwise).

Does this help?

-Tom 
 

Thanks in advance,
Marko
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