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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The apostle-doves seem to make more sense if the present S. Clemente mosaic is a re-elaboration as a crucifix of an earlier cross, perhaps of the jewelled cross type found in Ravenna. > > Genevra, I'm especially intrigued by the birds in the image you > provided from Galla Placidia's mausoleum (thank you; it's the last > link below): they seem to be quite specifically pecking at the cross. > What does that mean? -- Paul > > > > On 22 April 2011 01:49, Genevra Kornbluth <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and > culture > Getting back to the original query about the birds, one does find > birds on crosses from time to time, though they are not normally > so prominent. An example is the Ottonian cross of Liudolf in > Cleveland, with four pairs of confronted birds in enamel (the > glass mostly lost), c.1045. One of my images shows the birds > fairly well: > http://www.kornbluthphoto.com/images/LiudolfCross4.jpg > --for other views of the cross see > http://www.kornbluthphoto.com/HistoricalCrosses1.html > These birds are probably peacocks, with different symbolism from > doves. > There are doves perched on the arms of the cross (as on the > Passion Sarcophagi) on one of the sarcophagi in the Mausoleum of > Galla Placidia, > http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/ravenna-galla-placidia-photos/slides/IMG_1181p.htm > > > -- > Paul Chandler, O.Carm. > Holy Spirit Seminary | PO Box 18 (487 Earnshaw Road) | Banyo Qld > 4014 | Australia > office: (07) 3246 9888 | home: (07) 3246 9894 > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To send a > message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the > message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to > contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> For further > information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html