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Thank you, Crispin Regards Rebecca Rebecca Casa Hatton Archaeologist Planning Services Peterborough City Council Stuart House (East Wing), St John's Street Peterborough PE1 5DD Email: [log in to unmask] Telephone: 01733 864702 Mobile number: 07920160223 (Monday-Tuesday and Thursday 9.00 - 15.00) To find out more about Peterborough City Council, please go to: www.peterborough.gov.uk Please consider the environment before printing this email -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower Sent: 08 April 2011 13:58 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries Hi Alex and Tim and other non-HBSMR folk The latest thesaurus on our web site can be downloaded by anyone. There is nothing proprietary about this, and it's in - "csv" format (an open text format - character separated values). You can open the files in notepad, Excel, or import into databases. The latest thesaurus is the top item here: http://www.esdm.co.uk/downloads/HBSMR.asp and the Heritage List concordance file will be put there as well when we get it from EH. I'll let you know. Enjoy! Crispin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Crispin Flower exeGesIS SDM Ltd. Great House Barn Talgarth Powys LD3 0AH tel: 01874 713072/711145 fax: 01874 711156 email: [log in to unmask] URL: www.esdm.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To take advantage of our HBSMR Training Courses please visit http://www.esdm.co.uk/hbsmrtraining To take advantage of our GIS Training Courses please visit http://www.esdm.co.uk/giscourses.asp This email and any files transmitted with it are private and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, the email and any files have been transmitted to you in error and any copying, distribution or other use of the information contained in them is strictly prohibited. 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Registered in England and Wales : Great House Barn, New Street, Talgarth, Brecon, Powys, LD3 0AH Company Number : 3743089 VAT number : 736473122 -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex Sent: 08 April 2011 13:16 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries Thanks, Martin - I'll contact Lorraine on Monday to request a copy All the best Alex -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin Sent: 08 April 2011 12:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries The file will be non propriatorial, it will be a .csv file giving old and new numbers. exeGesIS may do something with it for HBSMR users but that is a matter for them and the HBSMR Users Group. Martin -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex Sent: 08 April 2011 12:18 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries Hi Martin, Will there be a .csv for non-HBSMR HERs? We use a bespoke system Thanks Alex Alex Godden BA (Hons) MA Archaeologist/ Historic Data Manager Strategic Environmental Delivery Group Economy, Transport and Environment Department Hampshire County Council Tel. 01962 832338 HPSN 8 200 2338 Email: [log in to unmask] hants.gov.uk/landscape-and-heritage -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Poppy Sent: 08 April 2011 12:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries Hi Martin, While we are on the subject, and apologies if I have missed something, but is there a list of the 350 OCNs that have been re-assessed, or will that be self-evident in the concordance file? All the best sarah -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster Sent: 08 April 2011 12:07 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries That's fine, thanks Martin. Chris Webster Somerset Historic Environment Record Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Taunton TA2 6SF 01823 347434 Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin Sent: 08 April 2011 12:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries Chris, No national numbers were assigned to the OCNs that were re-assessed under the OCN Project. This data was added into the new Unified Designation System which sits behind the Heritage List Access. These sites went straight from their Old County Number to the new number in the list without going through an intermediary national number. The data you will get on the concordance file and the data download will give the OCN for these records. I hope this clarifies things for you. Martin -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster Sent: 07 April 2011 18:07 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries Thanks for that Martin, could you just clarify the last bit about SM numbers. My point was that we don't (well I don't) know the national SM numbers that were assigned during the OCN project, so if the concordance you are intending to provide was just SM national number -> NHLE number we wouldn't know what the OCN ones were. -- Chris Webster Somerset Historic Environment Record Somerset County Council Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Taunton TA2 6SH 01823 347434 Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of NEWMAN, Martin Sent: Thu 07/04/2011 17:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries In response to the queries raised and the feedback we have received we are putting together the concordance list required for mapping old to new heritage asset numbers. This should be ready by Monday 11th April and will be made available as a .csv file on the exegesis website. You can also request a copy from Lorraine Summerfield ([log in to unmask] or 01793 414883) - a copy will be sent out as soon as it is available. LB Online data will remain on the Heritage Gateway until early next week when we are hoping to release the National Heritage List for England which will replace the LB Online cross-search. Additionally the spatial data download will contain a Legacy UID field as well as a field for the new List Entry number. However, the data download site has yet to be refreshed following the new Heritage List for England going live. This has been delayed because some spatial depictions failed to migrate to the new system. Consequently we are having to put these back manually. We are treating this as a high priority and are hoping to have the data download site refreshed next week. We will let the Forum know when this is available. To clarify another point raised in this thread all scheduled monuments will have been given a completely new number in the Heritage List For England whether they were previously and Old County Number (OCN) or a national number (MPP and later). This includes all those schedulings reviewed under the desk based OCN project to revise around 350 schedulings prior to migration into the new system.' Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin C Newman BSc MIfA MBCS FSA FRSA Datasets Development Manager Heritage Data Management Designation Department The Engine House Fire Fly Avenue Swindon SN2 2EH phone 01793 414718 fax 01793 414444 [log in to unmask] www.english-heritage.org.uk <http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/> www.pastscape.org.uk <http://www.pastscape.org.uk/> <http://www.pastscape.org.uk/> Visit the new English Heritage website: http://www.english-heritage.org.uk . 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