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I think that sounds a brilliant idea! Esther On 18/04/2011 19:38, Anne Welsh wrote: > Sorry, just catching up with this now. > > It occurs to me that it would be possible to use the eforum style to > do some practical work. Just as the LOC had a set of core examples > that everyone used, with enough time to copyright clear title pages > and versos, we could set up for print materials quite easily. I'm sure > that Helen at Facet Publishing would be quite friendly about letting > us use Facet's title pages and versos, for example. > > For non-print materials it's a *little* harder, but I guess we could > suggest titles that we'll all have a go at and then give a long period > of time to acquire them if necessary??? > > Then in the forum, we could split the two days into, say, 10 time > sections, and people could share their records and then discuss them. > So, for example, we could all share record 1 between 9-9:15, and then > discuss the variations from 9:15-10:00 > > I think key things about RDA are local decisions about options and > cataloguer judgment, so different places may have different-looking > records that are still "right" under RDA. > > By the end of the 2 days, we would have produced ten records and > discussed the differences between them, which would be helpful for us > all. > > And if people don't have access to RDA, they could do their best from > the drafts or just spectate / comment / ask questions. > > Just an idea. > > Anne > > On 18/04/2011 15:27, Helen Williams wrote: >> I'm wondering how easy it would be to create a hands on element to the >> training where people could have a go at creating records, and then were >> able to go to another page and check their test records against some >> correctly formatted ones/see where the differences occurred. I have had >> a go at this myself using titles on the LC examples, creating an RDA >> record, and then comparing it with the LC ones! >> Would people find this kind of 'test' setting useful if it was possible >> to set up? >> Helen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicky >> Ransom >> Sent: 18 April 2011 15:27 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Developing training for RDA/FRBR etc >> >> Yes, lots of examples, perhaps some practical hands-on element to the >> training to allow people to have a go - putting it into practice is an >> important part of the learning curve for me. Would also be useful to see >> the differences between formats (ie books, DVDs, journals). >> >> If the training materials could then be made available for people to >> cascade through their own institutions, that might be a big help in >> reducing costs in constrained times. >> >> Nicky Ransom >> Data Quality Manager& Cataloguer >> The Library >> >> University for the Creative Arts >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Esther Arens >> Sent: 18 April 2011 15:06 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Developing training for RDA/FRBR etc >> >> From my own experience/preference I'd suggest something with lots of >> examples where AACR2 and RDA are shown next to each other for easy >> comparison. >> >> Esther >> >> On 18/04/2011 14:47, C.J. Carty wrote: >>> I'm surprised nobody has any suggestions/request for training or >>> documentation that could be developed by CIG for future RDA or FRBR >>> training - now's the time to draw up a wishlist! >>> >>> What would you like to see covered? In what kind of format would you >>> like to see it delivered? How would you consider offering training >>> within your institution? >>> >>> Celine >>> >> >> -- >> Mrs Esther Arens >> Manston Vicarage >> Church Lane, Crossgates >> Leeds LS15 8JB >> Tel.: (+44) (0)113 264 2206 >> email: [log in to unmask] >> >> Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic >> communications disclaimer: http://lse.ac.uk/emailDisclaimer > > -- Mrs Esther Arens Manston Vicarage Church Lane, Crossgates Leeds LS15 8JB Tel.: (+44) (0)113 264 2206 email: [log in to unmask]