Oh you’ve hurt me now, I’m going to sulk – I think.

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: 29 March 2011 16:01
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

The ironic part is BS7666!

 

David Evans

Historic Environment Record Officer

Planning and Environment

Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment

PO Box 2081

The Council Offices, Castle Street

Thornbury

South Gloucestershire

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Phone: 01454 863649

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place)
Sent: 29 March 2011 14:04
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Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

I can feel the thread of this unravelling and now you’ve mentioned standards!

Cheers - Andrew

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: 29 March 2011 13:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

Correct I should have mentioned UPRNs and British Standards

 

David Evans

Historic Environment Record Officer

Planning and Environment

Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment

PO Box 2081

The Council Offices, Castle Street

Thornbury

South Gloucestershire

BS35 9BP

Phone: 01454 863649

fax:       01454 864473


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place)
Sent: 29 March 2011 13:33
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Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

Shame, a bit of irony often improves the quality of sarcasm.

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: 29 March 2011 13:08
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Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

But only with LB consent from the LA who will know where they were moved to!

I think it would be a good idea if LBs could be added to some type of computer mapping system as well as the existing paper maps.

Yes this is sarcasm not irony

 

David Evans

Historic Environment Record Officer

Planning and Environment

Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment

PO Box 2081

The Council Offices, Castle Street

Thornbury

South Gloucestershire

BS35 9BP

Phone: 01454 863649

fax:       01454 864473


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place)
Sent: 29 March 2011 12:56
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Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

And there have been instances of listed buildings being moved!

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Giggins
Sent: 29 March 2011 12:25
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Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

Not all houses have numbers, some just have names which can be changed by new owners. A friend had his house name 'stolen' by a new-comer to his village so there are now two properties with the same address. Also large houses are converted into flats and would be re-numbered. In the past there have been re-numbering of whole streets by the post office - hopefully this will not happen in the future but may have occurred since the greenback was published. Another scenario is that a building has burnt down / demolished and a new property with the same address has been built. Has this made its way into the records? The list description will make this obvious but might be missed in respect of a telephone enquiry.

 

Brian

On 29 March 2011 11:06, David Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

But the building has not moved!

 

David Evans

Historic Environment Record Officer

Planning and Environment

Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment

PO Box 2081

The Council Offices, Castle Street

Thornbury

South Gloucestershire

BS35 9BP

Phone: 01454 863649

fax:       01454 864473


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Giggins
Sent: 29 March 2011 11:04

Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings

 

In the days before retirement I had a passing interest in greenbacks and one of the  issues in addition to the listing updates was changes of postal addresses. Enquiries from owners etc. are usually on the basis of the current address not the historic one. It was therefore possible for someone to be advised on the telephone that the property was not listed as the data had not been updated.

 

regards

 

Brian

On 29 March 2011 10:35, Mike Shaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Is LBOnline now being kept up to date?  Last time I looked into it it was years behindhand.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

Mike Shaw

City Archaeologist

Wolverhampton City Council

Civic Centre

Wolverhampton

WV1 1RP

e-mail [log in to unmask]

Tel: 01902 555493

 

 


From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Wells (Archaeology)
Sent: 25 March 2011 13:34
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Subject: Greenbacks and listed buildings

Hello everyone,

 

I have a question too, if it's Friday question time!

 

As a local authority we have a statutory duty to update the greenbacks with new/amended listings.  However, since we now have the info on the HER and it's available direct from EH online via LBOnline, are we still expected to look after greenbacks? 

 

As our historic buildings people disappear I suspect more and more of these duties will fall to me.  I can print the things I receive out and put them with the greenbacks - is this what we're expected to do?  I have no idea.  The historic buildings people didn't seem entirely clear either.

 

Sorry if this is becoming increasingly vague and rambly!

 

Helen Wells
Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
http://www.leics.gov.uk/archaeology

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