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Oh you've hurt me now, I'm going to sulk - I think. ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans Sent: 29 March 2011 16:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings The ironic part is BS7666! David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer Planning and Environment Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place) Sent: 29 March 2011 14:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings I can feel the thread of this unravelling and now you've mentioned standards! Cheers - Andrew ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans Sent: 29 March 2011 13:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings Correct I should have mentioned UPRNs and British Standards David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer Planning and Environment Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place) Sent: 29 March 2011 13:33 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings Shame, a bit of irony often improves the quality of sarcasm. ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans Sent: 29 March 2011 13:08 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings But only with LB consent from the LA who will know where they were moved to! I think it would be a good idea if LBs could be added to some type of computer mapping system as well as the existing paper maps. Yes this is sarcasm not irony David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer Planning and Environment Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kirkham, Andy (Place) Sent: 29 March 2011 12:56 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings And there have been instances of listed buildings being moved! ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Giggins Sent: 29 March 2011 12:25 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings Not all houses have numbers, some just have names which can be changed by new owners. A friend had his house name 'stolen' by a new-comer to his village so there are now two properties with the same address. Also large houses are converted into flats and would be re-numbered. In the past there have been re-numbering of whole streets by the post office - hopefully this will not happen in the future but may have occurred since the greenback was published. Another scenario is that a building has burnt down / demolished and a new property with the same address has been built. Has this made its way into the records? The list description will make this obvious but might be missed in respect of a telephone enquiry. Brian On 29 March 2011 11:06, David Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote: But the building has not moved! David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer Planning and Environment Planning, Transportation & Strategic Environment PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Giggins Sent: 29 March 2011 11:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Greenbacks and listed buildings In the days before retirement I had a passing interest in greenbacks and one of the issues in addition to the listing updates was changes of postal addresses. Enquiries from owners etc. are usually on the basis of the current address not the historic one. It was therefore possible for someone to be advised on the telephone that the property was not listed as the data had not been updated. regards Brian On 29 March 2011 10:35, Mike Shaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Is LBOnline now being kept up to date? Last time I looked into it it was years behindhand. Regards, Mike Mike Shaw City Archaeologist Wolverhampton City Council Civic Centre Wolverhampton WV1 1RP e-mail [log in to unmask] Tel: 01902 555493 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Wells (Archaeology) Sent: 25 March 2011 13:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Greenbacks and listed buildings Hello everyone, I have a question too, if it's Friday question time! As a local authority we have a statutory duty to update the greenbacks with new/amended listings. However, since we now have the info on the HER and it's available direct from EH online via LBOnline, are we still expected to look after greenbacks? As our historic buildings people disappear I suspect more and more of these duties will fall to me. I can print the things I receive out and put them with the greenbacks - is this what we're expected to do? I have no idea. 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