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Just caught up with this discussion, but colleagues may be pleased to know that this material has been deposited with Tyne & Wear Archives. A catalogue will be available online next time our web catalogue is refreshed. Liz Rees Liz Rees Chief Archivist Archives Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums Blandford House Blandford Square Newcastle NE1 4JA Tel: 0191 277 2241 Fax: 0191 230 2614 Email: [log in to unmask] R ead Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums' new blog, and get involved with our social media, games and digital projects here - http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/engage/ Leader of the North East Regional Museums Hub Our mission is to help people determine their place in the world and define their identities, so enhancing their self-respect and respect for others. Find out more at: www.twmuseums.org.uk 2009 North East Public Sector Organisation of the year. v.1TWAM From: Archivists, conservators and records managers. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fyfe Morag Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: It's not Friday, but sometimes its a museum & an archive! Thanks for that Andrew, it's a very fair point. I was just trying to make the more general point that all to often this programme in particular recommends that archive material goes to a library or a museum. They pretty much never mention archives! If he had been specific in saying the Labour Archive in the People's History Museum, I might have been more forgiving... ;o) As someone else mentioned to me - at least he wasn't just recommending it be broken up and sold, so that's something I suppose! Morag. Morag Fyfe Hillsborough Disclosure Project Archivist Sheffield Archives 52 Shoreham Street Sheffield S1 4SP Tel: 0114 203 9398 Fax: 0114 203 9398 www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives <http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- From: ANDREW FLINN <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Mon, 14 March, 2011 19:57:57 Subject: Re: It's not Friday, but sometimes its a museum & an archive! Although to be fair many museums do have important collections in their archives - including the Arther Henderson papers which are part of the Labour Party archives held at the People's History Museum in Manchester. Best, Andrew ________________________________ From: Fyfe Morag <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2011 12:32:27 Subject: It's not Friday, but... I'm not sure if anyone else noticed the mistake of the Antiques Roadshow expert recently when assessing the collection of material relating to the labour party member Arthur Henderson (or whether I'm the only one to shout at the telly about these things!!), but I wrote to complain after he suggested this 'fine ARCHIVE of material' would be better placed in a museum, rather than sold... I saw this as a sad reflection on the misconception that abounds in our society that museums and libraries are the only people who look after heritage items. I didn't really expect a reply, but wanted to make my point anyway, as if we don't stand up for our profession and our services, who will... But lo and behold I got the response below this afternoon! It may be a quick reply to shut me up, but I like to see it as a small victory. ;o) Morag Fyfe Hillsborough Disclosure Project Archivist Sheffield Archives 52 Shoreham Street Sheffield S1 4SP Tel: 0114 203 9398 Fax: 0114 203 9398 www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives <http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives > ________________________________ From: Antiques Roadshow [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 14 March 2011 15:51 To: Fyfe Morag Subject: RE: Inaccurate Advice regarding the Arthur Henderson collection Dear Morag Many thanks for your email and for bringing this matter to our attention. We agree that an Archive is the correct place for such documents, rather than a Museum. We shall be mentioning this point to our specialists when we gather for a briefing ahead of the upcoming filming season. Thank you again for taking the time to write in. Kind regards Sophie Wogden Antiques Roadshow ________________________________ From: Fyfe Morag [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 07 March 2011 10:52 To: Antiques Roadshow Subject: Inaccurate Advice regarding the Arthur Henderson collection Dear Antiques Roadshow, I am writing to complain about the inaccurate advice provided by one of you experts on last night's show (broadcast Sunday 6 March 2011). I am afraid I do not know his name, but the 'expert' appraising the collection of material relating to Arthur Henderson suggested at the end of the segment that this 'fine archive of material' is best placed in a museum. The correct repository for archive material, I have to correct him, is in an Archive. Not a museum. Museums are wonderful repositories for objects, but not appropriate for large collections of paper or photographs, which have much different preservation and cataloguing needs to make them accessible to the public. This is not the first time that Antiques Roadshow experts have failed to point out the correct repository for paper and photographic material and I am very disappointed that the BBC continues to support this inaccurate idea that museums or libraries are the place for such material to be housed when there are hundreds of local record offices and other archives across the country who would not only be better placed to look after such material but better suited, containing experts and professionals on the preservation and access to such archive material. I would appreciate it if you could pass this on to the expert in question so that he does not make this mistake again. Yours, Morag Fyfe Project Archivist Sheffield Archives 52 Shoreham Street Sheffield S1 4SP Tel: 0114 203 9398 Fax: 0114 203 9398 www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives Written in a personal capacity. 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