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Ian, I got a big chuckle out of this. I kinda want a giant van that says "DANGEROUS SNAKES INSIDE", now. Thanks! I'm curious if there is a cultural element to his work with snakes, or if it is just an eccentricity and affinity of his own. Cool, in either case! Best, Andrew On Mar 14, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Ian Evans wrote: > Re Snake Divination, > > This is probably not what you need but here in Byron Shire, northern NSW, we have a snakeman who comes and removes snakes from your house - day or night. > He's Greek in origin and came to Australia when the Colonels seized power. He clearly loves snakes and is intelligent but I couldn't say whether he has studied them in antiquity. > By the way: no-one is ever going to steal his van as it has a large sign painted on the side: "DANGEROUS SNAKES INSIDE." > > Ian Evans > > > BYRON SHIRE GEORGE (THE SNAKEMAN) +612 6686 2852 > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:06 AM, ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > There are 5 messages totaling 181 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Snake Divination (5) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:42:14 -0700 > From: Andrew Carlson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Snake Divination > > Hi all, > > I'm working on compiling some research material and resources on forms and methods of snake divination. African and Greek methods seem the most written about, but I'm still early in this game. > > If anyone has any suggested resources, they'd be much appreciated! > > Thanks in advance! > > Cheers, > > Andrew Carlson > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:57:03 +0000 > From: mandrake <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Snake Divination > > On 14/03/2011 18:42, Andrew Carlson wrote: > > Do you mean now or in antiquity? > By divination - would it be snakes as a omen > or as some sort of incubation oracle? > > Mogg > > Hi all, > > > > I'm working on compiling some research material and resources on forms and methods of snake divination. African and Greek methods seem the most written about, but I'm still early in this game. > > > > If anyone has any suggested resources, they'd be much appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew Carlson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:05:26 -0700 > From: Andrew Carlson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Snake Divination > > Hi Mogg, > > Modern or ancient -- and any time in between -- would be relevant and helpful. As for the second part, again, both. Any and all connections with snakes and serpents as tools of oracular and divinatory agents, symbolically (in the case of dreams) or literally (in the case of physical divination practices/observations). > > At this stage I am just trying to create an index of resources and knowledge around the broad topic. No specific directions with it beyond that, just yet. > > (Although a side interest of mine is the connection between serpents and bird oracles. I've read a few places that those who spoke the "oracular language of birds" were gifted this power by the kiss, bite, or lick of a snake. I believe these come from Greek sources, but I haven't looked yet. Just working from memory.) > > Thanks again, > > Andrew > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:57 AM, mandrake wrote: > > > On 14/03/2011 18:42, Andrew Carlson wrote: > > > > Do you mean now or in antiquity? > > By divination - would it be snakes as a omen > > or as some sort of incubation oracle? > > > > Mogg > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm working on compiling some research material and resources on forms and methods of snake divination. African and Greek methods seem the most written about, but I'm still early in this game. > >> > >> If anyone has any suggested resources, they'd be much appreciated! > >> > >> Thanks in advance! > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Andrew Carlson > >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:40:15 +0000 > From: Caduceus Books <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Snake Divination > > Greetings! > > One example. > > In the Homer's Iliad an eagle carrying a snake is struck by the serpent > and drops it. The eagle represented the Trojans and the snake the > Greeks, the discomfort of the eagle predicts the Trojans defeat. > > My best wishes > > Ben > -- > > Ben Fernee > Caduceus Books > 28 Darley Road > Burbage > Hinckley > Leicestershire > LE10 2RL > U.K. > > Private premises, visitors welcome by appointment > > Telephone 01455 250542 (+44 1455 250542 from abroad) > Fax 0870 0552982 (+44 870 0552982 from abroad) > Skype ben.fernee.caduceus > > Web page:- http://www.caduceusbooks.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:29:19 -0000 > From: D E <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Snake Divination > > Mexico City is i beleive founded on the site of a snake and eagle oracular > event > > Dave E > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Carlson" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:42 PM > Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Snake Divination > > > Hi all, > > I'm working on compiling some research material and resources on forms and > methods of snake divination. African and Greek methods seem the most written > about, but I'm still early in this game. > > If anyone has any suggested resources, they'd be much appreciated! > > Thanks in advance! > > Cheers, > > Andrew Carlson= > > ------------------------------ > > End of ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC Digest - 13 Mar 2011 to 14 Mar 2011 (#2011-73) > ************************************************************************** > > > > -- > Ian Evans, OAM > The Flannel Flower Press & World of Old Houses (www.oldhouses.com.au) > PO Box 591 > Mullumbimby, NSW, Australia 2482 > Phone/fax 02 6684 7677 >