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Subtsance misuse testing in my organisation is (thank God) separate from the OH function and is carried out by contractors. In my opinion to a large extent the issue of people being under the influence at work ian HR/management issue. OH can assist with any necessary onward referral, support etc but IMHO not be involved in the checking and policing. Breaches of such procedures may well result in discciplinary action/dismissal and there may be many conflict of interest type issues that arise if OH do the work However - it depends on the nature of your organisation , how hazardous it is etc. Irrespective of this - if I stick with my opinion that it should not sit with OH cant really see how your OHP can move the goalposts without a full and frank discussion with HR? -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of p cranney Sent: 18 February 2011 10:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Alcohol Testing - thoughts please I would say not to remove, this program is set to support the employee in proof of their adherence to the rehab program, other on lookers could imply that with out random testing the employee could possible prepare for the test thus dictating the end result. Regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Witwicka" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Alcohol Testing - thoughts please Hello all At the moment our substance misuse policy states that if an employee is referred to OH, they follow a set proceedure. This proceedure includes "possible in-house random testing for a period of up to 3 to 6 months duration whilst under voluntary support programmes". The employee can consent or refuse to "undertake the drug and alcohol screening / rehabilitation programme / proceedure. Our (new) OHP is not happy re any random testing and has said that they are going to re-write the policy to exclude any random testing. I'm not sure whether that's such a good idea, but that's just me perhaps. Please can you say whether it's a good idea to remove OH randomly testing where indicated or not? Best wishes, S :-) ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation's IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH