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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:10:39 +0000
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] another dilemma..if only...
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child support agency
 
After a long hard day today, it frustrated me to see that people can't see the wood for the trees( 5yrs!). good luck with this one.
 
I did have a similar situation but the "other woman" left her job
 
Regards
Pauline 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] another dilemma..if only...

whats a CAS claim?
 
Its having a big effect by the way with people being in the position of doing additional hours/work (voluntarily) to "keep the peace". Once this was known it has been pointed out as being wholly inappropriate and unacceptable on a variety of levels. For clarity - Guy1 has been told (fairly nicely but clearly) that while management are sympathetic he needs to "man up" and get on with it, but he is not accepting these instructions. This will end up as a performance/disciplinary issue.......and undoubtedly he will then go sick and again a management issue will be "medicalised" . Personally I think his P45 may well be waiting for him in an envelope somewhere if he doesnt get a grip 
 

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:47:30 +0000
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] another dilemma..if only...
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give the guy 2 a months notice, send the guy1 ex partner forms for a CAS claim, its amazing how money focuses the mind
 
if only.........
 
I wonder what effect this is having on everyone else in the department, surely if others are stressed by this situation, the employers have to put in some preventative actions in place?
 
Pauline
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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] another dilemma.....

I have a case at the moment. Fairly senior employee (guy1)whose wife had an affair with one of his colleagues (guy2) 5 yrs ago. He went sick (stress) but came back to work. 5 yrs on the ex wife is now living with the guy she had the affair with, the latter has now been promoted to a higher position than guy No1.
 
problem is - we are losing staff hand over fist, operational requirements mean that it may well be that on occasion Guy1 has to report to guy2, highly undesirable but not many ways out of this from a business perspective. Guy 1 has refused to work with Guy 2 on the basis that he just....won`t. This created an operational issue two weeks ago. Guy1 is now saying that requiring him to work with Guy2 is placing him in a position where his health and well being is being compromised, he is citing "stress", the fact that he is being placed in an untenable position, that he is "under the Doctor" (that always makes me secretly smile), that his managers must assure him that he wont have to deal with him. I have every sympathy, but this is the workplace and our backs are against the wall.
 
The following has been offered :- stress risk assessment, flexibility to avoid the situation where possible but this wont always be the case, meetings with both parties to set some ground rules, formal mediation, input to help Guy 1 with his anxiety re the situation, covert warning to Guy2 ( toe the line and behave - dont step out of line), redeployment for guy1 (refused), regrading etc etc. He is now saying that he wont engage with any of this - he just wants a formal arrangement where he doesnt have to engage with his apparent nemesis, as this is now work related stress and it is for the employer to sort it out. His Gp has apparently offered to "come in" to speak to managers about his predicament (unlikely?)
 
Today he has been told - there can be no guarantees that they wont have to engage, the employer will try to be sensitive to his needs but he needs to be professional at work and do what he is paid to do. Am I missing something before it erupts?
 
 
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