Jesper Aagaard Petersen wrote:
Yeah to that :
)
Although with such a pedigree its easy to see why it might take a while
for the message to get through : )
Btw - to take this at a tangent - in
Stephen Flower's excellent book "Hermetic Magick" - p14
he states his
postmodern thesis :
"Furthermore the post-modernist is free of the
contraints of modern progressivism: To the modern if it's not new ,
if its
not the latest thing, then it is "retrograde" or "reactionary" and hence
unacceptable.
Post modernists are free to synthesis elements from all
phases of human history - _in any shape or form that suits their
purpose_."
True or false?
Mogg
Mogg,
Ah, that might be the problem here... Things have cleaned
up or more precisely exploded since the 1980s. The field of Satanism is much
more heterogenous and diverse today. Grahams article (1995) and my anthology
(2009) are good places to start.
I definitely do not say that links are non-existent -
and some were (or are) high profile: Your ToS example, some of
LaVey's acquaintances in the 1970s and 80s (and his own writings in the
1980s), LaVey's and Aquino's enduring interest in Nazi occulture, Boyd Rice,
Nikolas and Zeena Schreck in the 1980s... the apocalypse culture of Feral
House, ONA's right wing esotericism etc etc. But they cannot determine the
field as a whole, not then and certainly not now. And they have to be
evaluated on a case-by-case basis; some are tongue in cheek, some are deadly
serious, some are inflammatory rhetoric, some are translated into political
action (and being an organizer of BNF is pretty obvious). As with asatru
or Islam, for example, Satanism is not just one thing and cannot be
defined by one group.
Perhaps the best analogy is with heathenism and asatru;
some are racists, some are "racialist", some are left-wing
pluralists and some don't care one whiff about politics.
Best,
Jesper.
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Jesper
It definitely
requires careful wording / research - of course I agree that there are
"
Satanists who combine socialism and Satanism, anarchism and Satanism - and
a lot are totally apolitical and couldn't care less."
But there are
also the opposite - ie right wing/neofascist types with an interest in
satanism - many of whom are quite high profile.
It could well
be that things have been cleaned up some since the worse excesses of the
1980s -
i'll have to reread Graham's article to see what he says
-
but it surely cannot have escaped your notice that the one time UK
head of
TOS was also reputed to be an organiser for
the British
National Front? So it must be there in the literature somewhere ?
I
really hope you're right about it being a minority but sometimes
I get
a bit worn down when I see some Setians wearing nazi regalia and with
extremist views -
Mogg