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; HTML 1 GENERATOR MSHTML 8.00.6001.18999 GENERATOR MSHTML 8.00.6001.18999 DocumentEncoding windows-1252 Dear Mogg, Thank you for your reply. I am sure John is a thoughful person, as are all contributors to this list. But the post itself *was* stereotypical,thinking with caricatures. "Satanism is very reactionary" - well, what *kind* of Satanism? All Satanisms? And if so, is this assessment founded on an understanding of the various ways Satanists' actuallyuse the term Satan, or is it a reaction to the name Satan and the concept of Satanism, which *for John* is From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of mandrake Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:01 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] CFP: Satanism conference (Stockholm University, Sweden, Sept 25-27, 2011) Dear John & Jesper John Power is a thoughtful person, and I'm sure his words are well considered and not stereotypical - I hope he will expand on his views a little. The collection you mention looks interesting and I guess that _some_ of the contribs may well agree with him. Satanism could be seen as "reactionary" in several senses, as a negation of the negative, but also for its reputed association with Neo-fascism etc . I'd style myself a Setian rather than Satanist, but I guess both magical-religions are related - as indeed is Thelema. My own project, through various books and groups, is to try to undermine the associations sometimes made between the Egyptian god Set(h) and the right - but I have to admit it's become very entrenched and it may take a while? "Love and do what you will" Mogg Morgan Mandrake.uk.net Publishers PO Box 250, Oxford, OX1 1AP +44 1865 243671 homepages: http://www.mandrake.uk.net http://www.ombos.co.uk Hello John. I think that is a pretty stereotypical assessment of Satanism and a somewhat romanticized viewof history as well.You might benefit from this book: http://www.ashgate.com/isbn/9780754652861 If you scroll down, you can even read the introduction for free. Best, Jesper. From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Power Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:24 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] CFP: Satanism conference (Stockholm University, Sweden, Sept 25-27, 2011) Satanism is very reactionary: why lock yourself into a dualism with the thing you most dislike, when a simple 'fuck 'em all' will suffice to set off on a holistic path. The History might however be interesting, when the likes of Baudelaire and many Symbolistsfelt the need to react against the far worse establishment of their day. Nice to give the media simpletons something to rage about though. -----