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On 2011/01/06 19:58, aga yamin wrote:
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> Dear Brendan
>
> Please see my point of view below:
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> Your question is: how do I influence colleagues (if at all)
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> 1.Perhaps you can exert educational influence on colleagues in two ways:
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> ·By Exercising Innate Leadership Abilities
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> ·By Employing Designed Activities to educationally influence on others
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> 2.and how do they influence me?
>
> ·It depends on the degreeand extent of your knowledge, understating 
> and your perceived benefits of your new learning.
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> 3.What is the nature of this influence and how can it help me 
> understand the idea of professional development and Inservice Training?
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> ·In service training is one of the techniques of professional 
> development. In-service training is a process and professional 
> development is the outcome.
>
> ·Nature of influences can be explained in many ways:
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> Intensity of influence: i.e.: Some educational influences are 
> temporary and some are permanent. In both cases, nature of influence 
> is related to: what level and degree of knowledge you acquired and up 
> to what degree and extent it managed to change your temporary or 
> permanent behavior
>
> ·Is Wenger's notion of the 'learning community' a valuable one here?
>
> Gaining or exerting educational influence is independent to media of 
> learning. One can receive educational influence from an individual, 
> nature, learning community, conventional class-rooms, self-managed 
> learning and so on.
>
> Regards
>
> Aga
>
>
>
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> *From:* BRENDAN CRONIN <[log in to unmask]>
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> *Sent:* Tue, 4 January, 2011 12:49:03
> *Subject:*
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> Dear All,
> I want to look at the field of educational influence but in the sense 
> of how do I influence colleagues (if at all) and how do they influence 
> me?  What is the nature of this influence and how can it help me 
> understand the idea of professional development and Inservice 
> Training?  Is Wenger's notion of the 'learning community' a valuable 
> one here?  Or has this concept been surpassed?  How can one try to 
> understand the social formation in which one works in terms of 
> professional development and one's own learning?  Has anyone any 
> thoughts on this?
> Cheers,
> Brendan
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>
>
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Huuum, avid action researcher that I think myself to be I have deep 
doubts about this influence issue. Firstly I question the need. Why is 
it necessary to see if your influence or not has had an effect or not on 
others? Secondly I struggle with understanding the limits of my own 
ignorance and see others as reflections of different aspects of my 
illusionary self.I shy away from being an influence for good for the 
very question of good suggest that there is a bad the interesting 
question then surfaces in whose good is the better good? one that I feel 
is destructive.I live in an understanding that all actions, thinking and 
systems are connected, interconnected and interwoven. If one aspect 
moves, all aspects move as they are all in contestant states of movement 
any way. The separation of a self as an distinct individual, that is 
then empowered to be able to influence others is and distressing concept 
for me to sustain. Creating spaces within space where knowledge can be 
explored at the pace and understanding of the seeker appears to be a 
safer way that seeking to quantify influence.

Deepest respect

Je Kan