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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]> > There are several problems with the chronological approach. Should it be the date of death of the person, or the date (if any) of their canonisation? Or the date at which they became more more widely, or generally, commemorated? as has been pointed out, the canonization date presents difficulties (unknown dates not the least of these) as well as being, largely, irrelevant --at least for the purposes of ordering. Joan of Orleans' 1920 canonization would tell us quite a lot about the post-WWI period, but nothing at all about her middleval significance, obviously, and would thus be Off Topic, incurring the Wrighteous Wrath of our poor ListMommie. as for ambiguity about the date of death --also esp. problematic for purely legendary saints-- an approximate date of the real (or imagined) death should suffice for our purposes, differences in mere decades being trivial, in the Broader View which should Guide Us all. > Should the saints be divided region in which thwy are commemorated, my vote would be a clear NO on that one --though, of course, the region where they lived (and where their cult first, or later, took root) should certainly be relevant part of the text of the brief vita in the post. saints from all over "France" (and elsewhere) were important in the Chartrain, my favored obsession, for example. >or into those commemorated in the medieval period and those commemorated only later? again, a fact worthy of mention, but otherwise not a significant criterion for ordering. c ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html