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But I think Tim Coates is going in the right direction by pointing out the large amount of the Library Budgets spent on Council recharges, often as much as 45%. Whilst libraries with supplier selection have reduced costs I think Tim is referring to the costs of the councils on-line ordering system. Remember in real terms your 65p cost must include leasing of computers and IT staff time. Backroom in the council rather than backroom in the library As most orders now have to go through the councils purchasing computer rather than direct, the library is charged a cost for the running of this system and as a share of the wages of all people who check it. Some councils have saved a lot of money by getting rise of Inhuman Rresources one of the biggest drains on Library budgets. Just call in outside HR when needed. Otherwise you are paying a percentage often based on total staff and equivalents. Libraries with comparatively low levels of sickness and recruitment end up paying out of proportion. Libraries often pay more than their share of corporate phone bills. These are aimed at reducing call charges. Most libraries receive far more calls than they make and are thus subsidising departments that make lots of calls. Direct works repairs. These are usually charged to libraries at a profit based cost not on an actual cost. Direct works therefore make a profit at Libraries expense. Many charges are based on a square meterage of building rather than number of staff once again this often means libraries are yet again subsidising other departments. Many costs continue when a library is closed. For example the directors wage is often shared between all departments. This cost is part of running a branch but when the branch closes the cost of the director is not saved . Perhaps if he/she took a small wage cut with every closure they might think twice about cuts. Ian Stringer On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Maggie Sumner <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Note that Somerset too is among the list of organisations holding a current > BIC E4Libraries accreditation<http://www.bic.org.uk/e4librariesfiles/pdfs/110113%20accreditee%20list.pdf>as a reflection of its back office efficiency. > > Maggie Sumner > > Honorary Fellow and Past Chair, National Acquisitions Group > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Tanner < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> "The same book going through a council purchasing system will cost £20 >> to put on the shelf, because it has to go through so many hands." >> >> What?? >> If you use supplier selection, EDI and catalogue services, as you >> should, how can you possibly add that amount of cost onto a £5.99 >> book?(Which we wouldn't pay 5.99 for anyway but a heavily discounted >> price.) Our books are selected to a detailed spec by the supplier all we >> do is unpack, receipt onto the LMS and send out to libraries within 48 >> hours. This efficiency has been reflected in us achieving E4 libraries >> accreditation from BIC two years running. 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