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thanks Axel. You make a fair point and I have spent the last 37 years in public health - most of them in civilised discourse. Occasionally this proves insufficient to preserve an important element of our society: this I fear is such a case. You may recall the criticism of Chamberlain for his civilised discourse in 1939. The British welfare state was a direct outcome of World War 2 and current government policies will return us to the pre-war situation of health and welfare for those that can afford it or are fortunate enough to live in a well-provided area. In such circumstances it is the courage to resist, and the speaking of truth to power, rather than civilised debate, which come to the fore Alex On 17/01/2011 09:37, Axel Kaehne wrote: > Alex > > Perhaps you could try to engage with the arguments instead of > labelling somebody's intention evil. This is tea party terminology and > doesn't suit the UK political context. We should all try to keep up a > civilised discourse instead of lowering the tone of public debate. > > Best regards > > Axel > > > > > > Dr Axel Kaehne > Research Fellow > Welsh Centre for Learning Disabilities > School of Medicine > Neuadd Merionnydd > Cardiff > CF14 4XN > > Phone: 02920 687 212 > Fax: 029 20 687 100 > Email: [log in to unmask] > > > -----"The Health Equity Network (HEN)" > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: ----- > > To: [log in to unmask] > From: Alex Scott-Samuel <[log in to unmask]> > Sent by: "The Health Equity Network (HEN)" > <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 01/17/2011 08:44AM > Subject: Fwd: Humphrys fooled by Cameron > > Text of letter sent to Radio 4 Today programme following > Humphrys-Cameron interview this morning > > Once again the BBC has been fooled by the Conservatives claiming that > their NHS revolution is primarily about GPs taking over the > commissioning of services. This is a smokescreen for the real key > change, which is about the NHS becoming an open competitive market in > which all hospitals will be forced to compete with the private > sector - > 'any willing provider' - and will be forced to close down if they fail > to make a profit. > > Evil is the intention of causing harm or destruction, especially > through > violating moral codes. These unnecessary and evil changes will > irreversibly harm our beloved NHS, and destroy the fundamental > basis of > the welfare state that has served us so well for 60 years. > > Dr Alex Scott-Samuel > > -- ******************************************************************* Dr Alex Scott-Samuel EQUAL (Equity in Health Research and Development Unit) Division of Public Health University of Liverpool Whelan Building Quadrangle Liverpool L69 3GB UK Tel (+44)151-794-5569 Fax (+44)151-794-5588 http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/~alexss [log in to unmask] *********************************************************************