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Greetings all,

let us be clear anything that is sent and saved on a server is open for exploitation. If you are precious about the info out there then be careful.

Sent from my iPad, 
Lorraine Wall-Jones


On 10 Dec 2010, at 08:14, Carolyn Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> While  Sarah you are probably right 'de jure', I agree with Marianne that since it is possible to confirm consent with individual ocrrespondents and to confirm their preference with respect to     identification, it would be both ethical and courteous to seek to do so.
> 
> Good luck with the research Robyn.
> Carolyn Roth
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> On 09/12/2010 22:35, Sarah Stewart wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Marianne
>> 
>> I agree with you, except that the archives of this list can be viewed by anyone - you do not have to be a member of this list to see the content of emails. That puts the list in the public domain and "fair game" for research. If it was a completely closed list, that would be a different matter.
>> 
>> regards Sarah
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Marianne Mead <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Dear Robyn,
>> 
>> It is true to a certain extent that the content of the JISCMAIL lists are in the public domain, but not absolutely, given that you must join the list to be able to post and get the information.  On the other hand, I would argue that research participants ought to be able to consent to take part in research wherever possible.  In this case, even if you do state that the information you seek is in the context of your PhD, I do not remember that you stated that the questions were posed as research questions to potential research participants.  In this case, you do have the information that you asked for and you can identify the individuals who posted and I would therefore suggest that it would be right to ask these participants if they would consent to the content of their communication to be used.  
>> 
>> You still have the issue of the identity of the individual - to identify or not.  I can't imagine that too many people would not give consent for the content to be used, but that does ot necessarily mean that they may wish to be identified; after all, academic writing is probably a little different from interest lists.  It may be that people may prefer to complete the statements they made, or reference them, or perhaps not be identified.
>> 
>> It will be interesting to see what others think.
>> 
>> Marianne
>> 
>> 
>> From: Robyn Maude [CCDHB] <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Thursday, 9 December, 2010 21:19:27
>> Subject: Ethical use of on-line and email list discussions
>> 
>> Mandie said - "For example can JISC discussions be used as a measure of
>> midwifery discourse?"
>> 
>> This is an area that I currently seeking guidance from my ethics
>> committee about and would be interested to get feedback from the group.
>> 
>> I am doing my PhD on intermittent auscultation and over the years (mid
>> 2007, 2009 and again this year) have triggered a couple of threads
>> around this issue and fetal monitoring in general. There has been a
>> significant amount of debate all of which is amazingly interesting in
>> terms of getting a wide range of opninions from midwives and researchers
>> around the world - almost like an eDelphi in a lot of ways.
>> 
>> When posting on the JISCMAIL lists I have been clear about my PhD
>> candidacy status and the questions I am asking in that context. I email
>> the list moderator a while back to seek clarification regarding the
>> ability to use the material from the discussions and was told it was in
>> the public domain and could be referenced as personal communication - I
>> am not sure about this without going back to the individual who make the
>> comment - so any further advice on this is of value
>> 
>> 
>> Robyn Maude
>> 
>> 
>> 
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