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> Thanks so much, Eliana and Richard! I really enjoyed researching and
> writing it. Richard is quite right, the northern legends identify
> Emerenciana or Emerentiana as the mother of St Anne and thus the
> grandmother of Mary. There are some great essays on the Holy Kindred or
> Holy Kinship in Interpreting Cultural Symbols: Saint Anne in Late
> Medieval Society, ed. Pamela Sheingorn and Kathleen Ashley (Athens, GA,
> 1990), and Ton Brandenbarg has done a lot of work on same, e.g. ''Saint
> Anne: a Holy Grandmother and Her Children', in Sanctity and Motherhood:
> Essays on Holy Mothers in the Middle Ages, ed. by Anneke Mulder-Bakker
> (New York and London: Garland, 1995), pp.31-65 and 'Saint Anne and Her
> Family. The Veneration of Saint Anne in Connection with Concepts of
> Marriage and the Family in the Early Modern Period', in Saints and She
> Devils, ed. by Lène Dresen-Coenders (London, 1987), pp. 101-129.
> best
> Catherine
>
> Dr. Catherine Lawless
> Course Director, MA in the History of Art and Architecture
> Department of History
> University of Limerick
> Limerick
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> culture on behalf of Richard Copsey
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] jesus' great grandmother
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> Richard Copsey O.Carm.
> I am not exactly a new member of Medieval Religion but rather a lost sheep
> returning to the fold after a number of years away. I am a Carmelite friar
> with a special interest in the medieval history of the mendicant orders,
> especially my own. Also, because of his links with the Carmelites, I have
> worked a lot on the writings of John Bale and especially unpublished early
> notebooks.
>
> I appreciated the reference to Catherine Lawler's article on Mary's
> grandmother and have just read it. It is certainly a well researched
> paper.
> However, as she points out, this legend of Ismeria as the grandmother of
> Mary is a local Florentine variant on the ancestory of Mary.
> The more generally accepted legend was that Mary's grandmother was
> Emerenciana and that Ismeria (or Ysmeria) was the grandmother of John the
> Baptist. There are many surviving early lives of St Anne which contain
> accounts of her childhood and her parents. These can be linked with the
> increasing devotion to St Anne in the Low Countries in the 15th century.
> There are some beautiful Flemish paintings illustrating the life of St
> Anne
> preserved in the City Art Gallery in Frankfurt which came from the
> Carmelite
> church there. One of them has an ancestral tree of St Anne which contains
> both Emerenciana and Ysmeria.
> Richard
>
> On 12 December 2010 19:53, eliana corbari <
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>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>> Dear Colleagues
>>
>> Excellent article on Mary's grandmother, perhaps of particular interest
>> in
>> the season of the nativity
>>
>>
http://news.discovery.com/history/jesus-great-grandmother.html
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Eliana
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