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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Megan and others, Thank you for your responses. I'm trying to track references/resonances to prayers for taking the cross that are written in the 12th and 13th century. I'm so used to dealing with individual manuscripts for individual places that the idea of a "printed source" is somewhat strange to me, but I imagine there was some sort of, if not standaradization, representative of some sort of received textual tradition that was fairly widely in use, if in various forms. The LaTrobe music website is extremely useful, and gives me *a* text, and I was just wondering if this was *the* text. LeTongeran traces the early roots of the (Roman) Mass set to the seventh and eighth centuries, and these texts in some form or another appear all over the place (in the Sacramentaries, in the RGP, and so forth), but I'm looking for somethign that represents the later form. So, the Missale Romanum - yes. But what? And I guess this is my question. The Missale Romanum that comes up in my library search appear of all dates - and I guess my question would have been more precise if I'd asked it this way: Where to medievalists go if they want a generally reliable indication of what the Roman mass tradition (specifically) was for a particular feast. In the same time-saving way that we all go to the DouayRheims Bible to get a quick read on the Vulgate Bible, can one go to the 1964 printing of the Missale Romanum and expect some relationship to the medieval text, or, if not, is there an edition of the Medieval MIssale Romanum that is standard and I don't know about? (I know about Dijk, anyhow). This is a question revealing all levels of ignorance, I fear, but I hope the list will forgive me. At least, the Missale Romanum of 1672 is available through EEOB. Its a start. Thanks for any more thoughts, and for all patience in getting this far. cecilia On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Megan McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Hi Cecilia--You will need to be a bit more specific about what you're > looking for, if you want anything useful out of us. First of all--what > period are we talking about? Presumably, given your interests, it would be > later middle ages? If so, the Missale Romanum would give you the prayer and > chant texts that would have been used in many (although, of course, not all) > places. If you have a particular city or religious institution in mind, > there may very well be published liturgical texts from that place that would > be more helpful. Give us some hints and we'll run with it . . . Best, > Megan > > > > > Cecilia Gaposchkin wrote: > >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >> Dear all, >> >> Here's a question that I'm horrified to find myself not knowing the answer >> to. Before I ask it, let me say I am the *first* one to acknowledge that >> liturgical practice was widely variant and always localized. So, this is >> for a "thumbnail", not a definitive response for a particular time and >> place. >> >> That said, if I wanted to find the text(s) for the Mass for the Exaltation >> of the Holy Cross, and then the Mass for the Invention of the Holy Cross, as >> it was PROBABLY or APPROXIMATELY celebrated in the Middle Ages in, say, >> Church X, in Basic City Y, where would I go? >> Thanks, >> In ignorance, >> cecilia >> ********************************************************************** To >> join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: >> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To send a >> message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask]<mailto: >> [log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the message: >> leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] <mailto: >> [log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to contact the >> list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask]<mailto: >> [log in to unmask]> For further information, visit >> our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html >> > > > -- > ÐÏ à¡± á > > > ********************************************************************** > > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html